[00:48:57 CEST] <cone-511> ffmpeg 03Stephen Hutchinson 07n3.3-dev:HEAD: avisynth: fix Planar RGB output [02:00:15 CEST] <cone-511> ffmpeg 03Andreas Cadhalpun 07master:940b8908b944: apng: use side data to pass extradata to muxer [03:26:59 CEST] <jamrial_> fflogger seems to be glitching... [12:32:31 CEST] <cone-969> ffmpeg 03Michael Niedermayer 07master:077939626eea: avformat/flvdec: Fix regression loosing streams [19:32:15 CEST] <Compn> hehe [19:32:22 CEST] Action: Compn tosses a pebble at jamrial [19:33:40 CEST] <Compn> http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2016-September/199686.html [19:33:44 CEST] <Compn> you guys all ignoring this thread? [19:33:48 CEST] <Compn> anyone contact him ? [19:34:20 CEST] <Compn> >I would like to step in to make ffserver maintainable and distributable again, especially because of the many users depending on ffserver - including myself. [19:34:35 CEST] <Compn> doesnt happen very often :) [19:34:41 CEST] <atomnuker> Compn: god damn it compn, the more we leave ffserver the more we're stuck [19:34:48 CEST] Action: Compn chuckles [19:35:05 CEST] <Compn> atomnuker : my point was, get new maintainer to agree , and then is ok [19:35:19 CEST] <atomnuker> Compn: nobody maintains it [19:35:31 CEST] <Compn> maybe he is working on his own repo... [19:35:40 CEST] <Compn> who knows, thats why we need to contact him [19:35:53 CEST] <atomnuker> nobody has done shit, okay [19:35:59 CEST] <Compn> then we had ffm discussions too [19:36:04 CEST] Action: Compn remembers ffm thread [19:36:58 CEST] Action: Compn hides under his rock [19:38:27 CEST] <Compn> atomnuker : i think we all agree, did you setup new repo for ffserver only ? [19:38:43 CEST] <Compn> and get it over there ? [19:39:13 CEST] <atomnuker> Compn: nope, lets do that after it's removed [19:39:21 CEST] <atomnuker> BECAUSE WE'RE NEVER GOING TO FUCKING GET RID OF IT OTHERWISE [19:41:00 CEST] <Compn> :) [19:41:50 CEST] Action: Compn almost comes close to saying four letter word starting with v, but refrains [19:42:25 CEST] <Compn> ok i need to escape from computer. cya [19:43:08 CEST] <jamrial> no Compn, not ignoring it. that thread simply wont change the outcome of the decission [19:44:50 CEST] <jamrial> Compn: writing a reply to your email. and sorry, but this ship has sailed [19:45:02 CEST] <atomnuker> 4 letter word starting with v... very, vase, vine, volt, the rest is mostly giberrish? [19:45:20 CEST] <jamrial> atomnuker: calm down. no point getting angry [19:45:33 CEST] <Compn> jamrial : atomnuker is cool, hes my friend :) [19:45:39 CEST] <Compn> atomnuker : 'vote' [19:46:47 CEST] <Compn> now if you will excuse me, i have to decide between hillary clinton and donald trump to run the world. [19:49:01 CEST] <atomnuker> have fun [19:54:00 CEST] <BBB> Compn: happy voting! [19:54:21 CEST] <BBB> as for the ffserver thing, I 100% support removing it [19:56:57 CEST] <BBB> isnt it funny that veto and vote are anagrams? [19:58:14 CEST] <reynaldo> atomnuker: It't not true there's no maintainer, it has been a few months since I put time to it but Im still doing it. An I'm working on the new repo already, being doing it since yesterday [19:59:34 CEST] <reynaldo> if a 1y hiatus is enough to declare a file unmaintained we are in dire straits [19:59:58 CEST] <reynaldo> anyway, working on a solution. I hope to have something ready to show in the comming days [20:03:13 CEST] <nevcairiel> maintained or not, ffserver is essentially in a delete-worthy state [20:06:52 CEST] <atomnuker> reynaldo: does it involve keeping ffserver in the repo? [20:08:46 CEST] <reynaldo> did you read my email? [20:08:52 CEST] <reynaldo> it does not [20:09:22 CEST] <reynaldo> I try for them to be very brief so the point is clear. Thought what I was suggesting was clear [20:10:05 CEST] <atomnuker> which one? [20:10:05 CEST] <reynaldo> the email I didnt get is the one with the references to the discussion and related desicion you(?) were sending yesterday. Can you point me to it? [20:10:23 CEST] <atomnuker> yes, jamrial did [20:10:47 CEST] <reynaldo> atomnuker: the first one I sent yesterday [20:11:22 CEST] <reynaldo> stated my reasons for oppossing and supported the alternative of moving ffserver and possibly the rest of the apps progressively to another repo [20:11:25 CEST] <reynaldo> starting with ffserver [20:11:36 CEST] <reynaldo> this has always been my take [20:12:06 CEST] <atomnuker> well, we're killing time, lets do it [20:12:15 CEST] <reynaldo> I was explicit: Im not rejecting the patch, I would like to hold on it there's an alternative and theres one working now but I want to make it a bit better [20:12:38 CEST] <reynaldo> it wont take a lot of time, few days top [20:12:57 CEST] <atomnuker> okay, what kind of an alternative? [20:12:59 CEST] <reynaldo> and note, usually destructive changes came with a solution attached, the only reason Im doing this now is because theres ppl using it [20:13:11 CEST] <reynaldo> otherwise I'd demand it as an attachment to your patch [20:14:23 CEST] <atomnuker> I mean I said I'd wait a few days and I'm waiting [20:14:26 CEST] <reynaldo> atomnuker: one in the lines I presented, ffserver (possibly latter other ffmpeg cmd line apps) on an "applications" repo and out of ffmpeg/ [20:14:30 CEST] <reynaldo> perfect [20:14:34 CEST] <reynaldo> appreciated [20:14:40 CEST] <jamrial> reynaldo: i'm fine waiting until you come up with this separate repo for ffserver. we already missed the 3.2 release so no real hurry for a few weeks [20:14:52 CEST] <reynaldo> jamrial: brilliant [20:14:58 CEST] <reynaldo> then we are all in the same page [20:14:58 CEST] <jamrial> but ffserver will be gone from the main tree before the next release [20:16:50 CEST] <atomnuker> but please don't take more than a few days, make it better and post it ASAP [20:18:21 CEST] <jamrial> and as others pointer, separate repo for ffmpeg/ffplay/ffprobe would be a massive PITA and not really worth the trouble [20:18:41 CEST] <reynaldo> Im not gona include those in [20:18:47 CEST] <reynaldo> but leave the door open is my plan [20:19:12 CEST] <reynaldo> and discuss it properly latter on if time allows [20:19:19 CEST] <jamrial> all three applications use public api only, so the whole "private api, bad practice" argument is null for htem [20:19:21 CEST] <reynaldo> leaving/ [20:19:23 CEST] <jamrial> only ffserver was abusing it [20:19:28 CEST] <jamrial> later [20:19:49 CEST] <reynaldo> no, I meant s/leave/leaving/g ;) [20:26:19 CEST] <sopparus> I added a proposed patch in there (not mine) is that ok? or must I go to the ML [20:26:58 CEST] <jamrial> sopparus: ml for patches, yes [20:27:27 CEST] <sopparus> ok [20:32:10 CEST] <reynaldo> btw, is there any rationalle behind our uninstaled pkg-config files not being named blah-uninstalled.pc as usual ? [20:33:00 CEST] <reynaldo> it makes PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR/PKG_CONFIG_PATH trickery a bit harder [20:33:28 CEST] <reynaldo> (than expected. Not rocket-science-harder) [20:35:43 CEST] <jamrial> don't think there's any reason other than whoever implemented it forgot or didn't think it was necessary [20:43:19 CEST] <reynaldo> yeah, figured that much [20:43:27 CEST] <reynaldo> will send patch [21:10:30 CEST] <Compn> im glad you guys worked it out :) [21:12:54 CEST] <reynaldo> +1 [21:15:01 CEST] <jamrial> Compn: can't say it made a difference since ffserver is still being deleted. reynaldo just asked time so his separate repo can be up before the removal [21:15:16 CEST] <jamrial> and since we missed the 3.2 deadline, there's no reason to say no to that request [21:18:45 CEST] <jamrial> reynaldo: you know this separate ffserver repo can't depend on the ffm mux/demuxer, right? those will be deleted in an upcoming major bump since they are using deprecated api [21:21:35 CEST] <reynaldo> I'm aware it can depend on it up till when ffm is removed. I wont de-ffm ffserver in just a few days [21:23:44 CEST] <jamrial> reynaldo: i know, just making sure you're aware it's not just a matter of removing the usage of internal lavf functions in the long term [21:24:55 CEST] <reynaldo> Quite. There are other problems and several possible solutions ;) [21:25:13 CEST] <reynaldo> jamrial: thanks for the warning all the same. [00:00:00 CEST] --- Sat Oct 29 2016