[00:08] <relaxed> burek: fix my url please: http://johnvansickle.com/ffmpeg/ [00:09] <burek> im on it [00:09] <burek> is it still for 2.6.26+ [00:09] Action: relaxed passes burek a pbr [00:10] <relaxed> 2.6.32+ and 3.x.x [00:10] <burek> should I leave it as is or update it or what? :) [00:10] Action: burek sets mode: +beer relaxed [00:12] <relaxed> change it to 2.6.32+ so people aren't disappointed when it doesn't work with their ancient kernel. [00:13] <burek> :) [00:13] Action: relaxed glares at rhel [00:13] <burek> i forgot to update it even before.. :facepalm: [00:13] Action: relaxed takes his beer back [00:13] <burek> :)) [00:14] <burek> i believe its ok now :) im off to sleep :) [00:14] <burek> o/ :) [00:27] <beastd> relaxed: nit: you typoed version on your download page (verison) [00:31] <relaxed> beastd: thanks! It's probably been like that forever too. [00:32] <llogan> i prefer verison. [00:32] <Klaus_Dieter> hello world [00:34] <Klaus_Dieter> I have a mkv file that contains a tv recording. I would like to cut parts of it to remove commercials. since I do not want to re-encode the whole video, I use mkvmerge to cut the stream at keyframes and ffmpeg to only encode the parts between the keyframes where the cuts are. this works perfectly fine for video. However if I extract the audio with the given time from the original mkv and then mux the audio stream and all video snippets into [00:35] <Klaus_Dieter> at first I thoughtI might have an issue with my math, but then I realized that audio is encoded in frames as well and it might be that this is the cause of the problem. What could I to to keep video and audio in sync without having to reencode the whole movie when cutting it [00:35] <Klaus_Dieter> ? [00:37] <Klaus_Dieter> I tried adding arbitrary offsets for the audio times to compensate for the effect but this does not work well. This is the script I am using: http://paste.debian.net/54662/ [00:39] <relaxed> Klaus_Dieter: so you're cutting and concatenating with mkvmerge? [00:39] <relaxed> oh, why not use mkvmerge for both? [00:41] <Klaus_Dieter> relaxed: what do you mean by "both"? [00:41] <relaxed> then serve the concatenated file to ffmpeg if you need to encode [00:41] <Klaus_Dieter> I cut with mkvmerge at keyframes [00:41] <Klaus_Dieter> but then there are parts where I want to cut somewhere between two keyframes in the source material [00:42] <Klaus_Dieter> so I use ffmpeg to seek to the spot and re-encode only a few frames and that will become a video chunk as well [00:42] <Klaus_Dieter> maybe I should not separate video and audio at all and always process both at the same time. [00:42] <Klaus_Dieter> so whenever I use ffmpeg to re-encode some video frames I also re-encode the audio data as well [00:42] <relaxed> that would probably help [00:45] <Klaus_Dieter> that would probably work with divx movies [00:46] <Klaus_Dieter> but it would not work when I want to process x264 movies since I cannot use ffmpeg to reencode the video data as this has to happen using a specially patched version of x264... [00:47] <relaxed> build ffmpeg aginst the patched libx264? [00:47] <relaxed> against* [00:48] <Klaus_Dieter> hmm could be worth a try [00:48] <Klaus_Dieter> this is getting uglier than I thought... ;) [00:49] <relaxed> I prefer to let the internet remove the commercials for me. [00:50] <relaxed> you use both [ ] and [[ ]] in the script [00:50] <Klaus_Dieter> hmm. this could be a way too but I do not mean tobreak the rules [00:51] <Klaus_Dieter> relaxed: yeah it is still a mess. I am building upon a really old hacky script [00:51] <Klaus_Dieter> in the hope of improving it [01:16] <Zeranoe> Is there any way to speed up Theora encoding, or vpx? I need some chrome/firefox HTML5 formats. They are both so much slower than x264 [01:21] <ezekiel> "any way" is very vague - to potentially guide those more knowledgeable than myself, I'm going to go ahead and guess that you're not willing to buy better hardware to encode faster? [01:21] <ezekiel> and that you're not actually looking for "any way", but for possible command-line options to give up some little bits of quality in favor of faster encoding on whatever your current hardware is? [01:22] <Zeranoe> ezekiel: Command based ways, I'm just using b:v 1M right now, wondering what is fastest [01:26] <Zeranoe> vp8 is supposed to be really fast, but even with -quality reamtime its displaying at like 1fps [01:28] <ezekiel> if I were you, I'd start by testing variations in -crf, -qmin, and -qmax as described here: https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/vpxEncodingGuide [01:28] <ezekiel> but I've never encoded with vpx for either fun or profit, so... [01:30] <Zeranoe> vpx or theora, I'm not sure which is actually faster [01:32] <Klaus_Dieter> relaxed: for divx it worked to not separate audio and video stream. [01:32] <Klaus_Dieter> relaxed: now I have to build ffmpeg against my custom libx264 [01:57] <Klaus_Dieter> how can I give the divx encoder a hint on how many keyframes to use? [01:58] <Klaus_Dieter> if I encode a short video sequence it will try to put in kjeyframes aver couple of frames [01:58] <Klaus_Dieter> couple being in the range of 5 to 10 [02:05] <sacarasc> Klaus_Dieter: I think -g does it, but I am unsure. [02:07] <Klaus_Dieter> sacarasc: I have found that -g 0 is supposed to let the codec chose but that is garbage. -g 0 leads to a stream that has only iframes [02:07] <Klaus_Dieter> but having been toold that -g might be the right knob I can now use something like -g 300 and have a good starting point [02:07] <Klaus_Dieter> thank you sacarasc [02:08] <Marcin_PL> Hello. Could FFMpeg somehow do a lossless rotate 180 deg. a MJPEG stream? As rotating a JPEG image&? [02:10] <Klaus_Dieter> Marcin_PL: you defenitely can save it as mjpeg, rotate them losslessly using jpegtran and then create a stream again using ffmpeg [02:11] <Marcin_PL> Klaus_Dieter: You mean save as separately JPEGs? [02:13] <Marcin_PL> What i have: Avi container with mjpeg + PCM s16le Wave stream. Rotated due camera montage. :) [02:14] <Marcin_PL> Could You write me a command to do so? Maybe I could use pipelining? [02:14] <relaxed> Marcin_PL: man ffmpeg-bitstream-filters | less +/' mjpeg2jpeg' [02:15] <Marcin_PL> relaxed: Thanks, i really didn't know how to begin ald what to look for. [02:33] <Marcin_PL> Smart thing that frame %d. Thanks again Guys for fast help. [10:23] <Silasrsdrsd1> if following the centos compilation guide if I want to have the binaries in /usr/local/bin which path should I change? [10:24] <Silasrsdrsd1> without messing my whole server [10:31] <allengreen> ffmpeg -g means gop, if I just wanna 1 keyframe n second, and I don't know the fps, How can I achieve my goal? [10:32] <relaxed> allengreen: find out [11:00] <allengreen> of couse I can ffprobe to get tbr and multiply x seconds, then I can get gop. [11:00] <allengreen> It is just not my best choice. [14:05] <ShotokanZH> hi guys [14:05] <ShotokanZH> i've a problem with ffmpeg [14:05] <ShotokanZH> i'm trying to dump an RTSP stream lossless [14:06] <ShotokanZH> i tried that way: [14:06] <ShotokanZH> ffmpeg -i rtsp://admin:admin@192.168.1.108:554/cam/realmonitor?channel=1\&subtype=0\&tcp -an -t 30 -y out.mp4 [14:07] <JEEB> -c copy [14:07] <ShotokanZH> JEEB, should do the trick? [14:07] <JEEB> well as far as I can see you're not setting any output vcodec, so it most definitely is not doing what you'd want to do (copy lossless) [14:08] <ShotokanZH> JEEB, Unrecognized option 'c' [14:08] <ShotokanZH> Failed to set value 'copy' for option 'c' [14:08] <JEEB> ok, so you have a very old ffmpeg [14:09] <ShotokanZH> JEEB, ffmpeg version 0.8.6-6:0.8.6-1ubuntu2, Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the Libav developers [14:09] <ShotokanZH> built on Mar 30 2013 22:20:06 with gcc 4.7.2 [14:09] <ShotokanZH> seems not |: [14:09] <JEEB> yes, that's an old ffmpeg binary from the libav project [14:09] <JEEB> use avconv [14:09] <JEEB> if you want to use the thing that comes with your distro [14:09] <JEEB> otherwise you can also grab static builds of ffmpeg's ffmpeg [14:11] <JEEB> ShotokanZH, and just so you know -- the build date doesn't really mean anything [14:11] <JEEB> your libav sources are from when the 0.8 release was made, which is by now... [14:12] <ShotokanZH> ok :) [14:12] <JEEB> 20 months ago [14:13] <JEEB> anyways, if you are going to be using libav it's a separate project from ffmpeg, and you should be using the avconv command in that case. You can also build or grab a binary of ffmpeg's ffmpeg if you want to use that. Static binaries are available [14:14] <ShotokanZH> trying now :) [14:25] <ShotokanZH> JEEB, does work fine [14:25] <ShotokanZH> thank you dude [14:27] <jure> zap0: so - how do I now force a channel layout for an input file? [14:28] <zap0> jure, it involves small dolls and and some pins. possibly the sacrifice of livestock. [14:28] <jure> :) [14:29] <jure> "ffmpeg -af aformat=channel_layout=quad -i inputquad.wav -ac 2 out.wav" doesn't work [14:30] <zap0> i've not used sytax like that before [14:30] <jure> "Option af (set audio filters) cannot be applied to input file" [14:31] <jure> yet otherwise ffmpeg "guesses" the layout to be 4.0, which is wrong [14:32] <jure> "otherwise" = putting "-af ... quad" after input file [14:35] <jure> oh look, there's -guess_layout_max, let's try that out [14:40] <jure> that only gets ffmpeg to stop guessing the channel layout [16:11] <asding> hi guys I can't figure out how to make a proper conversion from ogv to mpeg. I need to burn a dvd for a dvd player. Any clue? running debian wheezy [16:12] <Mavrik> ffmpeg -i <file> -target pal-dvd out.mpg ? [16:40] <TauNeutrino> hey guys [16:40] <TauNeutrino> how can I download an audio file from youtube= [16:41] <TauNeutrino> man ffmpeg is useless because complicated as fuck and too lazy to read everything [16:42] Action: durandal_1707 too lazy to reply [16:42] <impy> TauNeutrino: thats not what you can use ffmpeg for [16:43] <impy> TauNeutrino: once you downloaded a video you can split off the audio with ffmpeg [16:43] <durandal_1707> you can use ffmpeg to grab audio from youtube [16:43] <impy> if you want to wait the entire duration [16:44] <TauNeutrino> maybe there is some simpler program you can suggest?? [16:45] <impy> maybe i can. [16:45] <TauNeutrino> I used clive too, bit it downloads the whole video [16:45] <TauNeutrino> :) [16:45] <TauNeutrino> sry but I just want to download audio files from youtube and I don't want to know every details of you program like in the man page [16:45] <TauNeutrino> your* [16:45] <durandal_1707> you cant only download audio [16:46] <TauNeutrino> I can [16:46] <durandal_1707> no you can not [16:46] <TauNeutrino> sure I can [16:46] <impy> Then why do you need our help, if you can? [16:46] <TauNeutrino> I want to download it with a program and not via webbrowser [16:46] <durandal_1707> you need to fetch video, and dump it afterwards, but you still download video.... [16:46] <TauNeutrino> like the analog of filsh [16:46] <sacarasc> TauNeutrino: youtube-dl piped into ffmpeg with -vn and -c copy would work well. [16:47] <durandal_1707> sacarasc: ffmpeg can do it on its own [16:47] <sacarasc> It can? [16:47] <durandal_1707> just compile it with libquvi [16:47] <durandal_1707> sacarasc: perhaps you are on wrong channel? [16:47] <sacarasc> No, I just don't keep up with things I don't need. [16:48] <TauNeutrino> with this I can download only the audio file: http://www.listentoyoutube.com/ [16:48] <TauNeutrino> I guess ffmpeg can do a similar thing? [16:49] <durandal_1707> stuff on youtoube have video too [16:50] <TauNeutrino> Isn't there something like : ffmepg -seghosego "youtubelink" ? [16:50] <durandal_1707> yes but you need to have right version [16:50] <durandal_1707> what version do you have? [16:50] <TauNeutrino> version of ffmpeg? [16:51] <TauNeutrino> I guess the newest, just download it via apt [16:51] <sacarasc> Ubuntu doesn't have ffmpeg at all. And Debian is never fully up to date. (I think testing doesn't use ffmpeg, like Ubuntu, too.) [16:52] <TauNeutrino> ah ehm 0.8.6-6 "This program is deprecated" -.- [16:52] <durandal_1707> you need 2.0 compiled with libquvi [16:52] <sacarasc> That's avconv from the libav project, which is a fork of ffmpeg, not ffmpeg itself. [16:53] <sacarasc> You can read that for some background to the forking/Ubuntu. [16:54] <TauNeutrino> -.- [16:54] <TauNeutrino> forget it, I just use this listentoyoutube thing [16:55] <impy> fair enough [16:56] <TauNeutrino> thx anyway :) [17:13] <jure> I had his answer, but I'm too late. [17:14] <durandal_1707> what is answer? [17:24] <jure> other people have suggested it. simplest way: youtube-dl -x <link to yt video> [18:00] <MichaelP> Is there anyway to get a cleaner video then this is doing ? ffmpeg -video_size 1366x768 -framerate 50 -f x11grab -i :0.0 output.mpg [18:13] <durandal_1707> MichaelP: i assume you encode into yuv420p [18:14] <durandal_1707> which can't be clear [18:14] <durandal_1707> or perhaps you are using default encoder parameters that sucks [18:14] <durandal_1707> there are myriad examples on web how to grab with ffmpeg [18:15] <durandal_1707> you could use libx264 encoder and preset fast [18:15] <durandal_1707> you can grab with ffmpeg lossless too... [18:15] <MichaelP> Guess im useing default then.... Here's how it looks... trying to grab my kde+compiz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUFPouHGjWU [18:17] <MichaelP> It's being a bit faster then my desktop is [18:18] <durandal_1707> try add -qscale 0 [18:19] <durandal_1707> ffmpeg -video_size 1366x768 -framerate 50 -f x11grab -c:v libx264 -preset ultrafast -i :0.0 output.mkv [18:23] <MichaelP> Unknown decoder 'libx264' .... libx264-135 ... h264ec and x264 installed [18:25] <MichaelP> http://dpaste.com/1412274/ [18:25] <durandal_1707> encoder [18:25] <durandal_1707> you put it in wrong place [18:26] <MichaelP> i copyed and pasted what you put there [18:26] <durandal_1707> ffmpeg -video_size 1366x768 -framerate 50 -f x11grab -i :0.0 -c:v libx264 -preset ultrafast output.mkv [18:28] <MichaelP> That is perfect !! [18:29] <MichaelP> Thanks [18:30] <MichaelP> is terminal the onlyway you can start and stop it ? [18:30] <durandal_1707> there are guis that calls ffmpeg... [18:31] <MichaelP> I know recordmydesktop has one.. But that package don't want to work in suse [18:48] <paradisal> hello [18:49] <paradisal> I want to have a sample code about using speex decoder [18:50] <paradisal> thanks in advance [19:57] <denysonique> ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 2 -ab 128k -i pulse -async 1 -f x11grab -s 1280x800 -framerate 30 -r 30 -i :0 -vcodec libx264 -preset ultrafast -crf 0 -acodec pcm_s16le -threads auto -y /tmp/video.mkv [19:57] <denysonique> The audio and video are out of sync, the video runs faster than recorded [19:57] <denysonique> ffmpeg version 1.2.3 [20:04] <llogan> denysonique: what player? does it play as expected with ffplay? [20:04] <Guest14461> Hi, I want a file to print "Muxing mode : Packed bitstream" In mediainfo, which option would do that ? [20:04] <denysonique> llogan: mpv [20:05] <denysonique> llogan: same result with ffplay [20:06] <llogan> you mean the video appears to be playing faster than it should? [20:07] <denysonique> llogan: yes [20:07] <denysonique> it even occurs when I just record the video [20:07] <denysonique> avconv records the video fine, but it doesn't record sound with video [20:08] <denysonique> ffmpeg records sound fine but the video is fast... [20:09] <denysonique> ffmpeg -f x11grab -r 30 -s 1280x800 -i :0 -vcodec libx264 -preset ultrafast -crf 0 -threads 0 /tmp/video.mkv [20:11] <denysonique> llogan: https://gist.github.com/denysonique/c30effb4b38b399cbc2b [20:17] <llogan> denysonique: maybe ffmpeg from git head will work for you. [20:17] <llogan> i can't duplicate any fast playing issue [20:20] <Guest14461> Hi, I want a file to print "Muxing mode : Packed bitstream" In mediainfo, which option would do that ? [20:21] <fede> Hi all [20:23] <fede> I wanted to change the volume on an ogg file with: ffmpeg -i file.ogg -af volume 4.000 file2.ogg [20:23] <fede> but the output is a flac file. Any ideas? [20:26] <denysonique> fflogger: try maybe -acodec theora [20:27] <llogan> you probably meant libvorbis [20:27] <denysonique> sorry fflogger: -acodec vorbis [20:27] <llogan> flac is default for ogg container unless you specify otherwise [20:28] <llogan> vorbis (the native, experimental encoder) is shitty. use libvorbis. [20:29] <fede> thanks for the hint. I just tried -acodec copy seems to work. [20:31] <denysonique> llogan: huffyuv seems to improve it, video runs at better pace, audio still out of sync, though [20:32] <llogan> does it work if you try -video_size 320x240? [20:32] <llogan> instead of -s 1280x800 [20:35] <denysonique> llogan: yes, with libx264 it works at a lower res [20:35] <denysonique> i5 not enough for 1280x800? [20:36] <JEEB> it should, how old is your x264/ffmpeg? [20:36] <JEEB> although which model do you have and how much other stuff you're doing at the same time? [20:36] <fede> -acodec libvorbis gives a lot of error msgs: [ogg @ 0xc0dc40] Non-monotonous DTS in output stream 0:0 [20:36] <JEEB> also make sure you're gettin assembly optimizations with libx264 [20:36] <JEEB> *getting [20:37] <denysonique> JEEB: ffmpeg 1.2.3 built today, on Gentoo [20:37] <JEEB> are you by any chance on 32bit? :P [20:37] <JEEB> I remember gentoo defaulting to disable-asm on 32bit [20:37] <denysonique> avconv records the desktop fine, but with no sound. hence I switched back to ffmpeg for ruther testing [20:37] <denysonique> I'm on 64 [20:37] <JEEB> ok [20:38] <denysonique> ok, what is the fastest -vcodec? [20:38] <denysonique> anything lighter than huffyuv? [20:38] <JEEB> rawvideo? which is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin [20:38] <JEEB> (and yes, this usually gets HDD-limited) [20:39] <JEEB> also if it works with avconv then the problem is probably somewhere else than video? [20:39] <denysonique> hah, HDD can be the bottleneck in this case. I'll give it a try [20:40] <durandal_1707> denysonique: try lossless h264 [20:40] <llogan> he did, IIRC [20:40] <JEEB> he seems to be setting -c:v libx264 and -crf 0 and -preset ultrafast [20:40] <denysonique> [rawvideo @ 0x7fe240000ff0] Pixel format was not specified and cannot be detected [20:40] <denysonique> when trying to play rawvideo [20:41] <JEEB> yes, naturally [20:41] <JEEB> you have to set -pix_fmt before -i when reading it [20:41] <durandal_1707> denysonique: isn't command you use rescaling 640x480 to 1280x800? [20:42] <durandal_1707> and with yasm disabled everything (important) you do will be slow [20:42] <JEEB> yes, I asked him if he had the asm enabled [20:43] <durandal_1707> also -r 30 is wrong [20:43] <durandal_1707> he should use -framerate 30 [20:43] <durandal_1707> burek: you are responsible for broken wiki examples [20:48] <llogan> why him? it's a wiki. [20:48] <tempus_fol> I can't see -framerate referenced on ffmpeg --help, manual or site... where could I find docs on it? [20:49] <durandal_1707> ffmpeg -h demuxer=x11grab [20:49] <llogan> durandal_1707: then the docs examples need to be updated [20:49] <llogan> http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-devices.html#x11grab [20:49] <tempus_fol> *scrib* thank you, noted [20:58] <durandal_1707> well -s and -r should work too, as there is hack in ffmpeg to translate -r to -framerate, but this may not work if -s/-r is on wrong position or whatever... [20:59] <denysonique> ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 2 -ab 128k -i pulse -async 1 -f x11grab -s 1280x800 -framerate 30 -r 30 -i :0 -vcodec huffyuv -crf 0 -acodec pcm_s16le -threads 0 -y /tmp/video.mkv [20:59] <denysonique> huffyuv seems to be much better than rawvideo in my casae [21:02] <llogan> why apply -ab 128k as input option? also, you don't need that for pcm_s16le. you also don't need -framerate 30 and -r 30. are you sure you need -async? [21:02] <denysonique> -ab 128k is a leftover when using libmp3lame [21:05] <denysonique> Downgrading to 1.0.7 before I try out HEAD [21:21] <Guest14461> Hi, I have this file http://pastie.org/8393141 (mediainfo output) and I want to create a smaller (in duration) version of it, I got this one http://pastie.org/8393142, but on my old DVD player can't play the last one (it 'jumps' trough it (00:00:12 -> 00:00:24, etc) with the screen remaining black), any ideas on how to do this ? [21:47] <fede> fflogger, sorry about my unformatted post, actually this is the first time I use IRC. I will check the sites you mentioned and post again. [22:04] <denysonique> here are the flags I have built ffmpeg with: https://gist.github.com/denysonique/2e90252923a73f5b0234 [22:04] <denysonique> maybe there is something that I could do to improve the performance of my x11grab [22:05] <denysonique> flag = present, -flag = disabled [22:12] <llogan> Guest14461: ffmpeg -i input -ss 30 -t 00:05:00 -c copy output [22:37] <denysonique> Application provided invalid, non monotonically increasing dts to muxer in stream 1: 1 >= 1rop=1 [22:37] <denysonique> av_interleaved_write_frame(): Invalid argument [22:37] <denysonique> I get this with avconv-0.8.7 [22:37] <denysonique> command: avconv -f alsa -ac 2 -ab 128k -i pulse -f x11grab -s 1280x800 -framerate 30 -r 30 -i :0 -vcodec libx264 -acodec pcm_s16le -threads 0 -y /tmp/video.mkv [22:38] <JEEBsv> in general if you want support for libav's binaries I recommend #libav [22:40] <denysonique> both avconv and ffmpeg not working... and this is a Thinkpad. [22:41] <JEEBsv> well, basically if it's ffmpeg's ffmpeg then this is the right place, if it's libav's ffmpeg or avconv (you should generally use the latter with libav) then you poke #libav [22:41] <JEEBsv> not that I really care, but some people seem to. And there are some specifics + depending on the age of the binary there might be some specifics (in both ffmpeg and libav) [22:41] <denysonique> already asked [22:42] <denysonique> but ffmpeg provided by libav isn't ffmpeg anymore or it is? [22:42] <JEEBsv> it is ffmpeg, just from before elenril's rewrite of a lot of stuff in it, which has also since been merged into ffmpeg's ffmpeg [22:43] <JEEBsv> so basically libav's ffmpeg is an old version left just hanging around (it was removed after the 0.8 release IIRC) [22:43] <JEEBsv> at least if I understood your question correctly :P [22:43] <denysonique> yep [22:44] <denysonique> or [22:45] <llogan> simply put: libav stuff (including their so-called ffmpeg) go to #libav, FFmpeg stuff go here [22:45] <denysonique> Better asked would be: Is /usr/bin/ffmpeg provided by the package libav still ffmpeg? [22:46] <denysonique> as opposed to the /usr/bin/avconv provided by avconv [22:46] <denysonique> libav* [22:46] <durandal_1707> no [22:46] <denysonique> how different is /usr/bin/ffmpeg from /usr/bin/avconv provided by libav? [22:46] <llogan> that's a question for #libav [22:47] <JEEBsv> libav's ffmpeg is basically the only binary libav had after the forking [22:47] <JEEBsv> then elenril did the great rewrite (the fruits of which we use with current ffmpeg as well), and the result of that rewrite is avconv on that side [22:48] <JEEBsv> for whatever reason the ffmpeg binary was left unupdated until the next release, at which point it was removed [22:48] <denysonique> right, thanks [22:48] <llogan> if you don't know which one you're using, see the first line of the console output and you'll see "...FFmpeg developers" or libav developers (I think) [22:48] <JEEBsv> yes [22:48] <JEEBsv> that marks from which repository it came from [22:49] <denysonique> so why did he decide to do a fork? [22:50] <llogan> because the dish ran away with the spoon [22:50] <JEEBsv> It's a group of people and it's a long story so I won't start a bedtime story here. Let's just say that both sides are doing active development and ffmpeg merges most if not all of the changes done over at libav. [23:25] <denysonique> ok, so it seems that libav 0.8.7 can record my desktop fine [23:26] <denysonique> except for problems when recording the sound and video at the same time [23:26] <denysonique> just to let you know [00:00] --- Fri Oct 11 2013