[00:00:50 CEST] <atomnuker> does anyone actually implement that? I thought subs in teletext was the state of the art nowadays [00:00:57 CEST] <JEEB> oh they do [00:01:26 CEST] <JEEB> there are some media serving things that take in live subtitles as TTML in MP4 or ISMV (lol) [00:01:49 CEST] <JEEB> while I just prefer having webvtt files linked somewhere for them subtitles [00:22:10 CEST] <January> atomnuker: 'subs in teletext' I'm having flashbacks... [00:22:30 CEST] <JEEB> that's normal, teletext subtitle pages [00:22:44 CEST] <January> 'normal' [00:22:51 CEST] <JEEB> for EU broadcast yes [00:23:00 CEST] <JEEB> for JP you have ARIB STD-B24 captions [00:23:14 CEST] <JEEB> for US/Korea/few others you have CEA-608/708 captions [00:23:26 CEST] <JEEB> (last of which is in the darn video track) [00:24:22 CEST] <January> I'm so happy I rarely deal with broadcast [00:28:10 CEST] <atomnuker> I had to implement the australian version which was just the ETSI version (or maybe it was the other way around) [00:28:31 CEST] <JEEB> ETSI is basically the DVB variant [00:28:38 CEST] <JEEB> so EU-based [00:30:30 CEST] <atomnuker> right, I never had to deal with non-dvb stuff [00:33:45 CEST] <atomnuker> huh, I wonder why south america which was pal switched to isdb [00:34:06 CEST] <JEEB> they will still be pushing out 50Hz I think [00:34:10 CEST] <atomnuker> at least I'm glad pal and (me)secam countries switched to dvb [00:34:21 CEST] <JEEB> it's mostly the ISDB transmission stuff I think [00:34:34 CEST] <JEEB> and ARIB EPG etc is pretty much what DVB does [00:35:17 CEST] <JEEB> there's some almost-like-HTML multimedia bollocks and proper styled captions support, but I'm not sure if those countries will even use that [00:35:32 CEST] <JEEB> because what they basically decided upon is just the radio part of ISDB [00:35:41 CEST] <atomnuker> does it already have javascript support so you can make it flash? [00:36:04 CEST] <JEEB> I don't think so, but I'm pretty sure you can make it flash in other ways [00:36:05 CEST] <JEEB> lol [00:36:53 CEST] <atomnuker> I bet there's someone somewhere in a dark basement with no windows who's working on adding java applet support in subtitles [00:41:46 CEST] <nevcairiel> the blu-ray java menu stuff is largely derived from some dvb java specs, i always wondered where those got used [01:04:49 CEST] <jamrial_> jkqxz: ping [01:49:58 CEST] <jdarnley> https://tweakers.net/aanbod/1634409/24-core-xeon-e5-v4-256gb-ecc-met-dual-10... [01:50:22 CEST] <jdarnley> I wonder if I could persuade anyone to buy me a ridiculously OP server. [01:54:14 CEST] <jamrial_> jdarnley: that's old by now [01:56:56 CEST] <jdarnley> Newer than everything else in my house [01:57:44 CEST] <nevcairiel> yeah thats broadwell, not even avx512! [01:58:07 CEST] <jdarnley> Oh wait. I guess I do have a Skylake sitting next to me but since it is a laptop it doesn't really count. [02:10:38 CEST] <January> nevcairiel: do we have anything notable using avx512 yet? [02:11:09 CEST] <jdarnley> I don't think there's any thing using it in ffmpeg [02:11:24 CEST] <jdarnley> x264 can though [02:12:49 CEST] <January> nice. I recently got a 4k UHD monitor, still waiting on a cable to actually use the HDR. What can I even do with it? When I get the cable I wanna test a bunch of stuff [02:14:00 CEST] <January> even without HDR it's a massive improvement, my previous monitor was horribly broken and displayed terribly bad washed out colours. Being able to actually see the difference between lossless and lossy content is always a plus... [02:16:31 CEST] <atomnuker> you formulated that as if with hdr it would be an improvement [02:19:13 CEST] <January> atomnuker: well I did assume there would be an improvement with HDR [02:21:42 CEST] <January> atomnuker: you dont seem to agree? [02:23:44 CEST] <atomnuker> not really, considering its supposed to make your eyes respond as if the brightness transitions are real [02:24:03 CEST] <atomnuker> so you're meant to be blinded if the video goes dim->bright->dim [02:24:35 CEST] <atomnuker> so you need a tone mapping algorithm anyway to reduce the deltas that studios overuse because its still a fad [02:24:48 CEST] <atomnuker> tbh I'd much rather prefer an oled display [02:25:04 CEST] <atomnuker> something where the darks are as dark as possible [02:40:22 CEST] <nevcairiel> oleds are only really worth it if you have a pitch black viewing room [02:40:48 CEST] <nevcairiel> otherwise the black advantage isnt really worth much [02:43:55 CEST] <atomnuker> the sun's annoying, nights are for working through [02:47:22 CEST] <nevcairiel> PC monitors in OLED will likely never happen though [02:47:30 CEST] <nevcairiel> they cant solve the image retention issues [02:47:48 CEST] <nevcairiel> maybe in micro-led [02:48:19 CEST] <atomnuker> you mean ghosting? its non-permanent, isn't it? [02:48:34 CEST] <atomnuker> *burn-in [02:49:12 CEST] <nevcairiel> not sure if its permanent-permanent, but its definitely visible for a while, and PCs often have a lot of static content on screens [02:49:18 CEST] <atomnuker> ghosting's not too bad as long as it quickly disappears and the refresh rate is high [02:50:29 CEST] <January> I have a BenQ EW3270U, I'm actually not sure how it compares to other UHD monitors though. What do you guys have? [09:10:55 CEST] <cone-107> ffmpeg 03Gyan Doshi 07master:7b80df677aa8: doc/filters: change subtitles example to hint at correct color syntax [20:58:54 CEST] <cone-510> ffmpeg 03Jacob Trimble 07master:cf81a9c07891: avformat/mov: Fix reading saio/saiz for clear content. [21:35:00 CEST] <cone-510> ffmpeg 03Carl Eugen Hoyos 07master:5686c4489a01: ffmpeg: Fail if the user requested impossible subtitle encoding. [00:00:00 CEST] --- Sun Jun 10 2018