[00:59:47] <Sean_McG> when using av_log(), how do you give the log entry a meaningful tag rather than [ NULL @ <addr> ] ? [01:11:40] <astrange> pass a struct as the first argument whose first member is an AVClass * [01:12:00] <mru> not worth the trouble for a quick debugging hack [01:12:20] <Sean_McG> OK [01:23:39] <Sean_McG> style question: true/false, TRUE/FALSE, or 0/1 ? [01:24:01] <mru> !/nil [01:24:10] <mru> if (cond) [01:24:13] <mru> if (!cond) [01:24:51] <mru> one day I'm going to sneak in #define TRUE 1, #define FALSE 2 somewhere [01:25:00] <Sean_McG> LOL [01:25:28] <mru> or #define TRUE 256 to fuck with people who typedef char bool [01:41:03] <Sean_McG> when I reply to update a patch, which message ID should I reference... the last patch submission, or the latest reply? [01:42:30] <mru> whatever makes sense [01:43:22] <Sean_McG> OK [01:44:32] <Sean_McG> sent [02:44:11] <BBB> Yuvi: btw the ipad2 looks really nice. just mentioning, no reason why I'm pointing this out specifically to you, just, you know, saying... :-p [02:47:57] <Sean_McG> hahah [02:49:39] <kierank> BBB: omg now it's white [02:50:17] <BBB> I know, it's got a new color, I gotta go buy one [02:50:28] <BBB> well actually, that's unfair, I never had an ipad1 and pre-ordered the ipad2 a while ago [03:02:58] <astrange> employee discount doesn't work on new products for a while [03:05:29] <Jumpyshoes> BBB: how much is it gonna cost? [03:05:49] <astrange> price is the same [03:05:59] <Jumpyshoes> oh. is it just white? [03:06:10] <astrange> http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipad/family/ipad/start?mco=OTY2OD... [03:06:53] <astrange> http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad?mco=OTY2ODY4NQ [03:07:04] <Jumpyshoes> that is expensive [03:09:37] <astrange> refurbished is a good deal. there's really no reason to upgrade from the base model [03:14:01] <Jumpyshoes> i don't buy apple products [03:14:07] <Jumpyshoes> i was lucky enough to get a free itouch though [03:59:33] <Jumpyshoes> what is nfc quantization? [03:59:57] <mru> no f*cking clue [04:01:11] <Jumpyshoes> it probably isn't important [04:02:52] <kierank> google says noise feedback coding [04:03:10] <Jumpyshoes> huh [04:08:39] <Sean_McG> I'm with mru on that one ;) [04:19:32] <Jumpyshoes> is there a way to make my cygwin configure nonretarded [04:24:51] <Sean_McG> yeah, switch to *ix ;) [04:25:49] <Shu> i should not have run make -j. i love it when cygwin freezes my entire box [04:26:31] <kierank> haha [04:26:50] <drv> i have to use cygwin at work, makes me die inside [04:27:12] <Shu> i hate vim copy paste more than i hate cygwin [04:36:26] <Jumpyshoes> AVERROR_PATCHWELCOME [04:38:48] <Jumpyshoes> i didn't know this existed [04:40:20] <Sean_McG> hahahahah [04:47:42] <saintdev> peloverde: ping [04:57:59] <Jumpyshoes> how do i just make ffmpeg? is it just "make ffmpeg"? it isn't work for me in cygwin [05:00:10] <saintdev> me english parser isn't work either. [05:00:44] <Jumpyshoes> how do i make ffmpeg and not ffplay, ffserver, etc? [05:00:52] <kierank> --disable-ffplay --disable-ffserver [05:00:56] <kierank> in ./configure [05:01:10] <Jumpyshoes> oh great, another configure run <_< [05:01:23] <saintdev> make ffmpeg works4meTM [05:02:28] <Jumpyshoes> i bet cygwin is being retarded again [05:21:45] <drv> you probably have to say make ffmpeg.exe [05:26:52] <saintdev> drv: good point [05:37:01] <peloverde> saintdev: pong [05:44:08] <Jumpyshoes> can i get ffmpeg to surpress compiler warnings? [05:46:39] <mru> close eyes [05:48:16] <Jumpyshoes> well [05:48:20] <Jumpyshoes> i do want to see compiler errors [05:49:20] <ohsix> add -Werror [05:49:29] <drv> haha [05:52:56] <drv> wow, make -j (giantnumber) makes make significantly faster on cygwin [05:53:18] <kierank> make isn't the problem on cygwin, it's configure [05:53:29] <drv> yeah, configure is painful, but even make is super slow [05:54:39] <ohsix> configure just runs lots of test programs, not good for cygwin [05:55:38] <mru> configure runs the compiler, just like make does [05:56:15] <ohsix> the tests are very short lived, and also ran themselves sometimes [05:56:16] <elenril> mru: already awake or still awake [05:56:34] <mru> still... [05:57:00] <drv> the compiler runtime is almost negligible compared to the time spent sitting around waiting for process bringup and teardown [05:57:29] <ohsix> yep [05:57:40] <kierank> I guess I find configure painful on cygwin because you can't see anything going on. at least make looks like its doing something [05:57:51] <ohsix> emulating the address space stuff on fork on windows is very very slow [05:58:38] <j0sh> in swscale, are c and accelerated conversions supposed to return identical output? [05:58:52] <j0sh> swscale-test with --disable-mmx returns totally different numbers [05:59:17] <ohsix> "only with -bitexact" or something of that nature, i'd surmise [05:59:55] <ohsix> but c & asm for filters should be the same i think (but don't know) [05:59:56] <j0sh> hm [06:03:33] <drv> hm, make -j12 is roughly 35 seconds vs make -j1 at 6m21s, which is pretty close to scaling linearly, just feels really slow [06:04:23] <mru> on what hw? [06:04:55] <drv> i7, 6 cores with ht [06:05:07] * mru wishes he could use all the 900 cores on the supercomputer he's currently logged into [06:05:38] <kierank> haha they're arguing about QCIF vs QSIF on jvt-experts now [06:05:58] <mru> 240 vs 288 [06:06:34] <mru> I call them both epsilon [06:07:51] <saintdev> kierank: in latin? [06:08:00] <kierank> no, english today [06:13:43] <saintdev> kierank: quad-QCIF? [06:14:04] <kierank> lol [06:14:41] <saintdev> QSIF-HD =P [06:21:24] <kierank> mru: logged on to watson? [06:22:18] <spaam> kierank: mru is watson. [06:22:37] <kierank> watson is powerpc iirc [06:22:42] <kierank> mru must be an arm version [06:23:07] <saintdev> POWER7 [06:24:39] <saintdev> This is a RAD video game codec. [06:26:36] <kierank> What is codec? [06:26:56] <Sean_McG> mmmm POWER7 [06:27:17] <saintdev> No, Watson. [06:27:46] <KenJennings> What is Bink? [06:28:20] <saintdev> lol [08:16:22] <in3xes> ffmpeg [08:16:35] <in3xes> oops! sorry [08:17:57] <andoma> good morning internet! [08:18:11] <Zor> why hello [08:18:23] <thresh> moroning [08:18:48] * av500 hands thresh some water [08:25:07] <pJok> god morgon :) [08:25:24] * pJok thought most of the drama was over on the ML [08:28:33] * av500 lols at the QCIF drama on jvt-experts [08:29:19] <thresh> av500: does it come with antisleeping pills? [08:29:26] <av500> nah [08:29:46] <av500> thresh: and its way to polite [08:30:04] * thresh was asking about the water [08:30:14] <av500> thresh: "little" warer [08:30:17] <av500> thresh: "little" water [08:30:23] <thresh> i'm puzzled [08:30:41] <av500> I see that [08:30:47] * av500 sends thresh back to bed [08:41:50] <kshishkov> av500: link please [08:46:34] <av500> kshishkov: to what? jvt? [08:46:50] <kshishkov> yep [08:46:57] <kshishkov> and to all their resources [08:47:11] <av500> you want teh codez? [08:50:47] <kshishkov> not sure [08:51:51] <kshishkov> but I dislike the fact that most jvt-related places ask for login/password [08:54:43] <av500> thats how one develops "open" standards, no? :) [08:57:16] <thresh> http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/430118/39152afef931d92e/ [08:58:58] <kshishkov> av500: I though the proper way is to buy proprietary stuff and release its sources as "open spec" [09:01:15] <av500> thresh: that does not mention FFmpeg [09:01:57] <kshishkov> or getopt.c [09:03:11] <thresh> av500: I had an impression that bashing google is completely on-topic here [09:03:46] <kshishkov> thresh: and here's a companion piece http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Controversy-surrounds-Red-Hat-s-obfus... [09:04:22] <thresh> yeah [09:05:04] <av500> and? [09:05:16] <av500> gplv4 can mandate .patch files [09:05:38] <thresh> RHEL5 kernel comes with 2000 of those [09:05:46] <thresh> no git whatsoever [09:05:57] <av500> grep git GPL [09:06:42] <thresh> ha ha you evil proprietor [09:06:46] <av500> gplv5 can then mandate *all* GPL code to live in a git on stallmans gdium only [09:07:26] <av500> oh, and its not online all the time, so print out patches and mail them.... [09:07:31] <kshishkov> av500: he has yeelong - gdium is not open enough for him [09:07:49] <av500> yeehav then [09:08:57] <av500> gplv6 can then mandata that only RMS can even write GPL code [09:09:32] <kshishkov> av500: <offtopic> can you build new ArchOS player on http://www.loongson.cn/product_info.php?id=31 specially for him?</offtopic> [09:09:58] <thresh> The source is configured: with a handwritten shell script [ +10 points of FAIL ] [09:11:41] <kshishkov> The source is not configured at all [+100 points of FAIL] [09:12:15] <av500> Your project only does releases as attachments in web forum posts [ +100 points of FAIL ] --> ffforum.org [09:13:58] <kshishkov> Linux kernel seems to gather lots of points on that test IIRC [09:14:15] <av500> its a FAIL [09:14:25] <kshishkov> GNU Hurd NG! [09:14:32] <wbs> tanenbaum knew that 20 years ago, already [09:14:33] <av500> it starts by being a fork of minix [09:15:01] <av500> and linus was not involved in the parent project either [09:16:00] <kierank> [08:52] kshishkov: but I dislike the fact that most jvt-related places ask for login/password --> not really [09:16:03] <kierank> anyone can register [09:16:12] <ohsix> fork of minix? [09:16:17] <av500> so why ask for a password then? [09:16:34] <av500> ohsix: it uses 3 letters [09:16:45] <av500> out of 4 [09:16:54] <av500> clearly a fork [09:17:01] <kierank> av500: to stop spammers and "plz send me the codes types" [09:17:07] <ohsix> ah, good one; awesome to start flamin' too [09:17:08] <kierank> doesn't work 100% i must add [09:17:19] <kshishkov> doesn't work at all I think [09:17:35] <kshishkov> because Chinese/Indians are hard-working [09:17:37] <av500> kierank: signing up to a ml is one thing [09:17:49] <av500> reading the archives behind a pwd is another [09:19:12] <thresh> so ffmpeg gets 10 points of FAIL, and vlc only 5 points of FAIL [09:19:15] <kshishkov> av500: that's to prevent spammers reading if somebody sent the codez so they can ask it immediately after registration [09:19:33] <kshishkov> thresh: autotools count for +666 point of FAIL [09:19:44] <thresh> autotools <3 [09:19:55] <ohsix> also a good place to start a flame [09:41:20] <cartman> moin [09:42:39] <av500> cartman: packed? [09:43:27] <cartman> av500: packed for a small holiday, flying next Wednesday! :) [09:43:45] <av500> dont come via frankfurt, its not safe [09:44:19] <kshishkov> only for brain [09:44:45] <kshishkov> and fortunately München airport should be ideal for him [09:44:49] <cartman> av500: coming directly to Nürnberg [09:45:35] <kshishkov> av500: BTW, what do _you_ have against the airport? [09:45:48] <av500> kshishkov: http://www.dawn.com/2011/03/03/two-us-airmen-killed-in-frankfurt-airport-sho... [09:46:53] <av500> kshishkov: I have nothing against it [09:46:56] <kshishkov> av500: Kosovo, US, Frankfurt - a dangerous combination indeed [09:46:58] <cartman> yeah :/ [09:47:15] <av500> kshishkov: now add KKP people [09:47:21] <cartman> lol [09:47:57] <kshishkov> av500: what is KKP? Some Chinese newspaper? [09:48:54] <pJok> god morgon kshishkov [09:49:02] <kshishkov> goda morgnar, pJok [09:49:13] <av500> kshishkov: no, cheap trick to fool cartman's controlling officers [09:49:39] <cartman> hahah :) [09:50:05] <kshishkov> cartman: well, we know you're all for free Kurdistan ;) [09:50:13] <av500> kshishkov: damn yoi [09:50:15] <av500> u [09:50:31] <av500> suse cannot afford to lose another employee [09:50:38] <av500> they are so few already [09:50:46] <kshishkov> good riddance! [09:52:38] <cartman> bah [09:52:50] <cartman> wait one week and then you can joke all day long :P [09:53:29] <av500> then it wont be fun [09:53:51] <cartman> true :P [09:53:51] <av500> until we learn your BND trigger words [09:54:56] <kshishkov> cartman: anyway, you'll be in Bavaria and we in Germany [09:55:13] <cartman> I am OK with that [09:55:21] <cartman> as long as visa says Germany [09:55:26] <kshishkov> :) [09:56:01] <kshishkov> don't forget to try Bayrische traditionell Weißdöner and Leberköfte [09:56:27] <cartman> I'll make sure :P [09:56:46] <thresh> uhmm, bavarian dirndls [09:57:05] <cartman> http://placekitten.com/ [09:59:19] <kshishkov> thresh: сарафаны с кокошниками лучше? [10:00:02] <thresh> kshishkov: "uhmm" означало http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dH3Lwg9Gc1Y/SXfkSS2puPI/AAAAAAAAAPc/9528CDmviHg/s3... [10:04:23] <av500> BSAC, do I ever need that? [10:05:46] <kierank> av500: some korean or japanese thing uses it iirc [10:06:56] <kshishkov> kierank: then they are ven crazier than anybody thought [10:07:08] <peloverde> korean broadcast tv uses bsac [10:07:39] <peloverde> t-dmb [10:08:14] <av500> yes [10:08:19] <av500> besides dmb [10:10:46] <kshishkov> that's very dmb IMO [10:10:56] <thresh> It also counts for substantial FAIL if "all your web site has is a picture of a marijuana leaf," as he said one small-scale open source project does. [10:11:10] <kshishkov> what convenient features does BSAC have? [10:11:47] <kierank> kshishkov: the feature that it is in 14496-3 [10:13:39] * kshishkov thinks it's very obvious that there are a lot of things in 14496-3 [10:14:08] <kshishkov> why not TwinVQ then? [10:14:43] <kshishkov> or somebody just wanted to exercise arith coding patents belonging to them? [10:14:49] <kierank> of course [10:15:24] <peloverde> fgs bullshit [10:16:09] <kshishkov> fgs? [10:17:11] <peloverde> fine grained scalability [10:18:41] <kshishkov> then why it's allowed to have SBR-in-BSAC ? [10:21:20] <peloverde> bsac still has arithmetic coding [10:22:39] <peloverde> and doesn't bsac+sbr use "Scalable sbr"? [10:24:19] * kshishkov wonders how well "scalable" and "arithmetic coding" go along [10:25:22] <kierank> kshishkov: anything can be scalable when you're mpeg [10:26:04] <kierank> like hevc scalable [10:26:44] <kshishkov> kierank: your phrase sounded like one of the songs from the South Park movie [10:27:06] <pJok> anything is scalable if you use just add enough math to it [10:27:48] <kshishkov> pJok: if you add enough cores [10:29:32] <kshishkov> kierank: just look at the last lines - http://www.metrolyrics.com/im-super-lyrics-south-park.html [10:30:40] * kshishkov lols hysterically at "byte-swapped IMA ADPCM data" on ML [10:32:49] * av500 suggests a parser [10:33:16] <av500> or libavswap [10:34:18] <kshishkov> thanks, he decided to use parser already [10:34:41] <kshishkov> I'd propose bitstream filter instead [10:34:45] <kierank> lol libavswap [10:35:20] <av500> pmi, but why was wrong about just swapping the damn bytes in the RM demuxer? [10:35:26] <av500> why->what [10:36:33] <kshishkov> it's a hack [10:38:30] <av500> kshishkov: so is the de-interleaving of cook also a hack and should be done in an outside parser? [10:38:30] * kshishkov found that RM specs has only one instance of "DNET" - the word "idnetify" [10:38:37] <kshishkov> av500: nope [10:38:48] <kshishkov> actually RM specifies a number of interleavers [10:38:50] <av500> kshishkov: dnet is a 2byte interleaving :) [10:38:54] <av500> solved [10:38:57] <av500> next [10:39:07] <kshishkov> av500: nope [10:39:30] <kshishkov> files with it have "Int0" interleaver - i.e. no interleaving was done [10:40:54] <av500> jaja [10:41:25] <av500> just go ahead and add more memcpy [10:51:28] <kierank> plz send me codez for memcpy [10:52:03] * cartman hands kierank a 0day memmove [10:52:18] <kshishkov> cartman: memmove is more robust [10:52:27] <av500> kierank: here: http://www.gtk.org/ [10:52:45] <av500> ah, no that was teh codez for strcmp [10:52:59] <kierank> av500: same thing, no? [10:53:02] <cartman> kshishkov: no need for overlap check [11:03:30] <kshishkov> mate! [11:06:44] <pross-au> ksh [11:07:45] <kierank> kshishkov: you should go and visit pross-au [11:08:06] <pross-au> Bring ya swag [11:09:19] <kshishkov> pross-au: http://zod.sourceforge.net/ [11:09:27] <pross-au> Cmdr Zod? [11:09:52] <pross-au> Hey cool [11:09:52] * pJok wonders how a codec designed by ffmpeg commitee would look like [11:09:52] <kshishkov> just look at it [11:10:05] <pJok> rather, format... audio+video+container [11:10:13] <kshishkov> pross-au: so guess your work would be appreciated, mate [11:10:48] <kshishkov> pJok: never completed due to bikesheds [11:11:34] <pJok> kshishkov, possibly... [11:11:40] <pross-au> consensus was obtained on the container [11:11:49] <pJok> kshishkov, isn't ffv1 designed by ffmpeg committee? [11:12:34] <Dark_Shikari> you mean michael [11:12:47] <kshishkov> pJok: nope, ffv1/snow and maybe nut were designed by one man [11:12:53] <pJok> ah [11:13:10] <pJok> Dark_Shikari, tomato potato [11:22:04] <iive> kshishkov: this is a lie [11:22:49] <iive> at least the nut bit. [11:23:01] <kshishkov> that's why I said "and maybe NUT" [11:23:10] <kshishkov> I know Oded worked on it [11:23:14] <iive> then don't say it. [11:25:52] <pross-au> somebody should really survey usage of the many formats available.. would make for an interesting read [11:27:59] <iive> pross-au: avi,mkv,mp4,ogm in that order. [11:29:36] <pross-au> what? no .bik! [11:29:42] <av500> .rmvb [11:29:48] <av500> all of china uses that [11:30:03] <cartman> indeed [11:30:05] <av500> and .wmv for all the pron [11:30:10] <iive> not really, they are still at vcd :P [11:30:13] <cartman> av500: I wonder why though (rmvb) [11:30:16] <pross-au> could be a fun survey then [11:30:20] <av500> cartman: nobody know [11:30:22] <av500> cartman: nobody knows [11:30:27] <av500> even real does not know [11:30:31] <av500> we asked them [11:30:33] <cartman> lol [11:30:48] <cartman> we have 1080p rmvb samples from China [11:30:50] <cartman> amazing [11:30:59] <av500> cartman: theory is that at some point in time, real producer "worked" for the chinese [11:31:04] <av500> and these people just stuck to it [11:31:07] <cartman> :D [11:31:19] <av500> or it was the easiest to cracj [11:31:20] <av500> k [11:39:13] <pross-au> and avi is popular because, its legacy, good enuff? [11:39:25] <kshishkov> yep [11:39:36] <kshishkov> be thankful WTV is not that common [11:39:52] <pross-au> Windows has had built in support for WMV for over a decade now [11:40:38] <pross-au> truth be told, i started thinking about a wtv muxer [11:44:55] <pJok> pross-au, just to mess with wtv specs? [11:46:26] <pross-au> to help build a better demuxer [11:46:44] <pross-au> because theres a lot of unknowns in there [11:48:16] <pross-au> it seems any modules/filters int the wtv streaming graph can write chunks, so theres a lot of proprietary chunks in the wtv file [11:51:51] <kshishkov> so it's completely the same in design as OLE archives (aka M$ Office document formats) [11:52:15] <pJok> kshishkov, not that odf is much better [11:53:04] <cartman> [applehttp @ 0xc19180]Receiving 1 variant streams [11:53:07] <cartman> awesome :D [11:53:19] <pross-au> kshishkov: precisely [11:53:26] <spaam> cartman: wait until you have 2 variants.. [11:53:39] <av500> or 42 [11:53:41] <cartman> was 8 variants [11:53:45] <cartman> it autoselected [11:53:46] <cartman> :D [11:54:09] <cartman> now I can watch our turtleneck Steve showing iPad2 [11:54:34] <Compn> variants? [11:54:37] <Compn> sounds like mbr [11:55:38] <Compn> [06:45] <av500> we asked them [11:55:40] <pJok> cartman, good ol' appleSteve [11:55:40] <Compn> lol! [11:55:42] <Tjoppen> no negative feedback on my wav patches at all? this must be a first :) [11:55:59] <mru> Tjoppen: you got a wtf from michaelni [11:56:09] <cartman> pJok: indeed [11:56:17] <Compn> av500 : next you'll have to ask china , but i guess its 'what everyone else is using' like divx/h264 in the rest of the world [11:56:44] <Tjoppen> I don't see why. I rearranged the some code that was already there [11:57:59] <av500> Compn: yes [11:58:09] <av500> Compn: they even did a survey back in the days [11:58:28] <av500> Compn: and found that .rmvb was only used for P2P content :) [11:59:51] <merbzt> Tjoppen: indentation I think [12:01:10] * Compn wonders how many hardware rmvb players there are in china now [12:01:17] <Compn> using ffmpeg code [12:02:33] <spaam> cartman: 2 [12:04:55] <Tjoppen> then he must have missed that it's rearranged code [12:08:58] <iive> Tjoppen: i think it have more to do with the possibility of seeking to int64_max position. [12:09:26] <iive> or rather offset. [12:13:02] <Tjoppen> hm [12:13:22] <Tjoppen> right, might not want to set next_tag_ofs to INT64_MAX [12:24:45] <mru> #ifdef Is_True_On [12:25:08] <Tjoppen> enum { TRUE, FALSE, FILE_NOT_FOUND }; [12:59:08] <thresh> kshishkov: http://lenta.ru/news/2011/03/03/hmao/ [13:00:45] <kshishkov> thresh: ну и страна, однако [13:02:44] <JEEB> Великая страна Россия [13:06:15] <kshishkov> JEEB: so would you prefer to live in Grand Duchy of Finland or Österbotten (if current country is not available)? [14:20:50] <in3xes> What is the correct place for title, author, year etc.? [14:24:19] <twnqx> isn't metadata just built as a list of attribute/value pairs? [14:25:05] <kierank> ask elenril [14:27:09] <JEEBsv> kshishkov: I'm not sure. Might choose Österbotten. [14:27:13] <JEEBsv> My name is fully Swedish anyways [14:27:14] <JEEBsv> lol [14:37:33] <in3xes> elenril: ping [14:44:52] <J_Darnley> What do you mean by "correct place"? [14:52:35] <in3xes> J_Darnley: Fields in AVFormatContext are deprecated. So where should I put them? [14:52:56] <J_Darnley> The AVMetadata struct [14:53:10] <J_Darnley> Using the supplied functions [14:53:21] <elenril> av_metadata_set2 [14:53:35] <J_Darnley> like that ^ [14:53:48] <in3xes> Okay [14:54:30] <kshishkov> elenril: today I ate lie from a can [14:59:37] <elenril> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlatantLies [15:00:00] <kshishkov> elenril: nope, different lie - the one featured in Portal [15:00:33] <elenril> there really was a cake [15:00:37] <elenril> and it was delicious too [15:01:12] <kshishkov> yes, since I happen to live in a region where that cake originated from, I tried it [15:03:58] <elenril> btw [15:04:06] <elenril> anyone wants to mentor playlists? [15:14:55] <in3xes> Isn't that an abandoned project? [15:15:43] <elenril> yeah, it failed in the last gsoc [15:16:23] <in3xes> btw, I am a student :) [15:16:38] * elenril is a student too [15:20:20] <BBB> elenril: you want to do playlists? [15:20:24] <BBB> elenril: that's a massive task [15:20:29] <BBB> elenril: I thought you were busy [15:20:41] <BBB> in3xes: want to participate in gsoc? [15:21:03] <elenril> BBB: can't be THAT bad [15:21:16] <BBB> I've been told it eats your soul [15:21:23] <elenril> maybe i could recycle something from the previous attempt [15:43:12] <BBB> elenril: if possible [15:43:17] <BBB> elenril: would you mind going through that code? [15:43:41] <BBB> elenril: my impression was that the student sort of went off by himself, didn't discuss and so some code might be useful but the concept at large isn't very useful [15:43:49] <BBB> i.e. first plan how to integrate it, then code [15:43:52] <BBB> not the other way around [15:51:08] <in3xes> BBB: yes [15:53:11] <BBB> in3xes: what project (or type of work) are you interested in? [15:53:24] <BBB> elenril: btw I'm all for you doing playlists, you'll have a much higher chance of success than anyone else [15:53:40] <BBB> I'm just affraid it's like the kernel block layer: waterloo for everyone [15:54:03] <elenril> what's wrong with kernel block layer? [15:54:10] <elenril> and who'd mentor it? you? [15:54:18] <Kovensky> BBB: stalingrad > waterloo [15:54:56] * av500 proposes a neon audioconvert and downmix [15:55:03] <av500> mru to mentor it [15:55:06] <BBB> elenril: dunno... we'll have to find someone [15:55:40] <mru> Kovensky: hardly, stalingrad is an obscure paris metro station, waterloo is one of the main rail hubs in london [15:56:39] <Kovensky> ofc london would name one of their main rail hubs after one of the most famous defeats for france :D [15:56:44] <kierank> yup [15:56:56] <kierank> the rail hub that had trains to france too [15:57:35] <mru> and it's right next to trafalgar square [15:57:52] <mru> baptiste mumbled something when he visited... [15:58:29] <elenril> maybe wbs... [15:58:54] <kshishkov> Kovensky: well, all Russian/Ukrainian railroad stations are named after one in London [15:58:56] <in3xes> BBB: Any suggestion? [15:59:07] <kierank> mru: nope, waterloo's on the other side of the thames [15:59:37] <mru> close proximity [15:59:44] <mru> it's <10m walk [15:59:53] <kierank> yeah i suppose [16:00:37] <mru> the various rail/tube stations in that area are weird [16:03:33] <kierank> a lot of them are right next to each other because in the 1800s competing rail companies built them there [16:06:51] <Kovensky> http://www.cracked.com/article_18550_5-true-war-stories-that-put-every-actio... <-- #5 on why stalingrad > waterloo [16:09:35] <j-b> hello people! [16:09:56] <lu_zero> hi [16:10:13] <mru> hello french [16:11:42] <av500> j-b: booze on monday? [16:12:45] <j-b> av500: NO! [16:12:56] <j-b> av500: I take a true week of holidays :D [16:13:01] <av500> pah [16:13:06] <j-b> like no Internetz [16:13:07] <av500> lazy french [16:13:26] <j-b> French, yeah... Lazy, no [16:18:26] <av500> why is audioconvert.h not exported? [16:18:36] <av500> what am i missing? [16:19:56] <kierank> in libavutil? [16:23:58] <av500> kierank: ffplay.c uses av_audio_convert [16:24:27] <av500> I want to use it too [16:24:36] <av500> but I fail to find it in installed headers [16:24:39] * av500 feels stupid [16:25:04] <kierank> it is in mine [16:25:08] <kierank> oh wait [16:25:09] <kierank> no it isn't [16:25:45] * av500 is trying a codec that returns goddam float values [16:51:58] <av500> kierank: ok, I replaced all of audioconvert with one line I stole from it... [16:51:59] <thresh> paris has a stalingrad metro station? most bizarre [16:53:06] * kierank adds av500 to hall of shame [16:53:24] * av500 laughs evil laugh [17:00:01] <mru> we should have a hall of flame [17:07:54] <BBB> elenril: as for the cafdec patch, I'd recommend to leave that for now, I don't think it really helps all that much [17:09:05] <elenril> get_strz has to be replaced anyway [17:09:53] <elenril> and since the size of the chunk is already known (and other parts of the code already rely on it being correct), we might as well use it [17:15:00] <BBB> the whole file appears to not deal with, say, the case where there's a few padding bytes after a chunk [17:15:13] <BBB> so I wouldn't say that the size is used at all [17:21:27] <elenril> yeah, i noticed that too [17:21:32] <elenril> but it's used in other places [17:22:59] <elenril> ok, i'll remove it from the patch [17:23:17] <elenril> not like i care about this demuxer [17:26:27] <BBB> elenril: that's what I thought also, like, I don't even know what caf is :-p [17:26:40] <BBB> elenril: "thanks for not caring" sounds weird though [18:33:23] <elenril> sure is netsplitty [18:33:36] <lu_zero> a lot [18:33:38] <elenril> do we turn url_ftell into a macro as well? [18:43:52] <elenril> ffmpeg can't dump attachments, right [18:44:21] <elenril> lu_zero: weren't you working on this? [18:46:15] <lu_zero> elenril: posted a patch [18:47:19] * elenril searches for it [18:54:21] <elenril> hmmm....fate still fails for me [18:54:26] * elenril wonders [19:05:14] <lu_zero> elenril: found it? [19:07:12] <elenril> yeah, will try now [19:08:31] <lu_zero> it should be able to streamcopy data streams [19:08:42] <lu_zero> well it is for nut -> anything [19:09:31] <elenril> what i want is to dump an attachment into file [20:28:25] <BBB> elenril: thanks [21:12:10] <merbanan> where is the gitorious clone ? [21:15:59] <lu_zero> http://gitorious.org/ffmpeg/ffmpeg I think [21:16:19] <merbanan> can you send a patch for the homepage [21:21:21] <Compn> huh ? [21:21:36] <Compn> ffmpeg.org homepage you mean ? [21:22:08] <merbanan> y [21:23:03] <Compn> merbanan : svn://svn.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg.org [21:23:03] <Compn> iirc [21:23:22] <Compn> E:\mplayer-testclips\ffmpeg.org>svn info [21:23:23] <Compn> Path: . [21:23:23] <Compn> URL: svn://svn.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg.org [21:23:36] <Compn> yep thats it [22:33:29] <Sean_McG> hi folks [22:35:24] <gnafu> Howdy, Sean_McG! [22:36:24] <Sean_McG> how goes? [22:52:34] <Jumpyshoes> how do you find the MSB in a int? i.e. ceil of log2(x) [22:58:54] <mru> Jumpyshoes: count leading zeros [22:59:09] <mru> in ffmpeg you can do av_log2() [22:59:16] <Jumpyshoes> oh, okay [22:59:19] <mru> it does whatever is best on your cpu [23:39:05] * Kovensky hurfs here too [23:39:07] <Kovensky> 20:36.37 Kovensky hurfs @ the vector math professor [23:39:07] <Kovensky> 20:37.02 Kovensky: he was doing pretty well... until he said that a 3D vector with the constraint "|y| = z" could point to any octant :| [23:39:10] <Kovensky> 20:37.31 Kovensky: and he insisted on it despite my objections [23:39:14] <Kovensky> 20:37.48 Kovensky: he compared "|y| = z" to "z = ±y", despite it making no sense [23:39:17] <Kovensky> 20:38.09 Kovensky: and found hard to understand when I said that "|y| = z" implies that z is positive [23:40:10] <mru> actually, it's non-negative [23:40:19] <mru> positive means strictly >0 [23:40:26] <mru> but you're right [23:41:53] <Kovensky> hopefully that's the extent of the confusion :/ [23:42:13] <Kovensky> in b4 he asks it on a test and expects the "points anywhere" answer [23:42:53] <Jumpyshoes> Kovensky: vector math as in multivariate calculus? [23:43:41] <Kovensky> idk yet [23:43:45] <Kovensky> this is the 3rd day of uni =p [23:43:58] <Jumpyshoes> well what was in the course description? [23:44:02] <Kovensky> (calculus is strictly an university level topic in brazil) [23:44:19] <Kovensky> I don't have access to those yet, only when I get my student number [23:44:41] <Jumpyshoes> how do you know what classes you're taking then ._. [23:44:59] <Kovensky> 1st semester students automatically are assigned to the 1st semester modules, and they give you a table with the modules/hours [23:45:33] <Jumpyshoes> i see [23:46:18] <Kovensky> I should receive mine sometime next week if there are no delays [23:47:06] <Jumpyshoes> so are you in the US equivalent of high school? [23:47:43] <Kovensky> equivalent of university, actually [23:47:46] <mru> vector calculus is calculus with vector-valued functions [23:47:59] <Kovensky> TJ is the weird one, based on what I hear about american schools ._. [23:48:29] <Jumpyshoes> i see [23:48:38] <Kovensky> (interestingly, in both portuguese and swedish, education levels are "lower" than in english) [23:48:45] <mru> so instead of y = f(x) you have (t,u,v) = f(x,y,z) [23:48:49] <mru> if in 3 dimensions [23:48:57] <mru> you can have any number of dimensions [23:49:02] <Jumpyshoes> you should cover vector calculus in multivariate calculus [23:49:30] <Kovensky> such as "high school" being 'ensino médio' ("middle school"), university being the "high school" [23:49:57] <Kovensky> idk if this inversion exists in swedish, but undergraduation in english is called graduation in portuguese, and english's graduation is post-graduation in pt [23:50:21] <Jumpyshoes> i've always heard it as elementary school --> middle school --> high school --> college/university --> grad school --> PhD [23:50:37] <Kovensky> talking about post-sth, reminds me of brazilian discordians translating aftermath to the equivalent of "post-mathemathics" [23:50:57] <Kovensky> (aftermath being the last month of the discordian year) [23:51:11] <Jumpyshoes> what in the world is aftermath [23:51:24] <mru> in swedish "högskola" (literally "high school") is a not-quite-university [23:51:43] <mru> they teach at the same level but aren't authorised to give out certain degrees [23:52:54] <mru> aftermath is what remains after a disaster, such as a maths degree [23:53:29] <Jumpyshoes> lol [23:53:49] <BBB> yiihaa [23:53:53] * BBB has vc1 slices working [23:53:56] <BBB> that was about time [23:54:05] <BBB> was getting bored of debugging the same issue over and over again [23:54:11] <mru> take my brother for instance, he has a phd in maths and still he's only a lowly c++ codemonkey [23:54:15] <BBB> yet another feature that NOBODY USES finally supported in ffmpeg :-p [23:54:49] <BBB> mru: don't "hogskola" give out bachelor degrees? the dutch ones do nowadays [23:55:14] <mru> they give out some degrees, not sure exactly what the rules are [23:59:28] <BBB> what useless vc1 feature shall I add support for now? [23:59:33] <BBB> maybe luma/chroma scaling!!