Hi, I work in video post production, our DPs all shoot on Red cameras. . . it's become the norm that if stuff is coming in shot on anything larger than 2K it's shot on a Red camera and the footage is in .R3D. I was hoping to be able to get somewhere with using ffmpeg to create proxies of .R3Ds before archiving them to LTO using Archiware P5 Archive. The feature works wonders for allowing us to generate scrubbable proxies of archived .mov, mp4, etc video fileswho's full res files live on LTO5 - but we currently can not use ffmpeg on the current (v4) R3D format (Red Camera). We shoot on Red Weapon and raster sizes are getting HUGE with the advent of uHD and 720/VR. It is not practical to cast a wide blind net of footage to unarchive as this material takes up so much space and takes considerable time to unarchive. Most recent tracks of any movement on this topic I found have been silent for a while: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/2690 I'm curious where things are at in terms of .R3D v4 support for ffmpeg. Thank you! Rob Wentz • Post-Production Supervisor • Pedersen Media Group 501 Second Street, Suite 212, San Francisco, CA 94107
On 2/24/17, Rob Wentz <rwentz@pedersen.com> wrote:
Hi, I work in video post production, our DPs all shoot on Red cameras. . . it's become the norm that if stuff is coming in shot on anything larger than 2K it's shot on a Red camera and the footage is in .R3D.
I was hoping to be able to get somewhere with using ffmpeg to create proxies of .R3Ds before archiving them to LTO using Archiware P5 Archive. The feature works wonders for allowing us to generate scrubbable proxies of archived .mov, mp4, etc video fileswho's full res files live on LTO5 - but we currently can not use ffmpeg on the current (v4) R3D format (Red Camera). We shoot on Red Weapon and raster sizes are getting HUGE with the advent of uHD and 720/VR. It is not practical to cast a wide blind net of footage to unarchive as this material takes up so much space and takes considerable time to unarchive.
Most recent tracks of any movement on this topic I found have been silent for a while: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/2690
I'm curious where things are at in terms of .R3D v4 support for ffmpeg.
We need more samples.
I'm curious where things are at in terms of .R3D v4 support for ffmpeg.
We need more samples. I'm happy to provide! Specifically what are you looking for? we have 2 weapons and 2 epics.
On 2/24/17, Rob Wentz <rwentz@pedersen.com> wrote:
I'm curious where things are at in terms of .R3D v4 support for ffmpeg.
We need more samples.
I'm happy to provide! Specifically what are you looking for? we have 2 weapons and 2 epics.
Whatever you wanted supported in ffmpeg, we need each sample that adds new features. If you have specification even better.
I'm curious where things are at in terms of .R3D v4 support for ffmpeg.
We need more samples.
I'm happy to provide! Specifically what are you looking for? we have 2 weapons and 2 epics.
Whatever you wanted supported in ffmpeg, we need each sample that adds new features. If you have specification even better. You bet. We have some test files laying around on our SAN which I'll provide first, https://postings.pedersen.com/ username: ffmpeg-user password: r3d For now, I've posted several Helium footage samples from red user and several RED WEAPON samples shots we took. first four RED HELIUM shots (C001-C004) are 6144x3160 @ 25 fps REDCODE 5:1, No HDR last two RED HELIUM shots (C012-C013) are 6144x2592 @ 25 fps REDCODE 5:1, No HDR RED WEAPON shots are all 6144x3160 @ 23.976 fps REDCODE 4:1, No HDR I just asked our camera dept to put together a few more small test sample files for you with specs for each. He'll be posting them up to this same location... Cheers, Thank you so much!, Rob
More R3D samples posted, these are very short, 5k (5120x2700) 23.976 clips https://postings.pedersen.com/RED_WEAPON/ username: ffmpeg-user password: r3d The new samples are actually dated from November in that folder. They're very short chip chart shots. Since it's been asked - shooting proxies on the camera is not the most efficent option, our specific goal here is to use ffmpeg as a post-archive thumbnail videos at 192 pixels wide. We edit and grade online via 12 GB Fibre on Linux Resolve and dont use proxies for editorial. In fact some MAMs and archive programs also use ffmpeg and imagMagick to generate their proxies (Archiware P5 Archive for one). Would be useful if the feature could be used with RED footage. Thank you all.
I'm curious where things are at in terms of .R3D v4 support for ffmpeg.
We need more samples.
I'm happy to provide! Specifically what are you looking for? we have 2 weapons and 2 epics.
Whatever you wanted supported in ffmpeg, we need each sample that adds new features. If you have specification even better. You bet. We have some test files laying around on our SAN which I'll provide first, https://postings.pedersen.com/ username: ffmpeg-user password: r3d For now, I've posted several Helium footage samples from red user and several RED WEAPON samples shots we took. first four RED HELIUM shots (C001-C004) are 6144x3160 @ 25 fps REDCODE 5:1, No HDR last two RED HELIUM shots (C012-C013) are 6144x2592 @ 25 fps REDCODE 5:1, No HDR RED WEAPON shots are all 6144x3160 @ 23.976 fps REDCODE 4:1, No HDR I just asked our camera dept to put together a few more small test sample files for you with specs for each. He'll be posting them up to this same location... Cheers, Thank you so much!, Rob
I'm curious simply because I never heard any further - did you ever receive the samples I provided? Paul? The initial response was that you needed more samples. . . https://postings.pedersen.com/ username: ffmpeg-user password: r3d There is footage from both cameras we use- 8K Helium and some 5k and 6k footage from Red Weapon. first four RED HELIUM shots (C001-C004) are 6144x3160 @ 25 fps REDCODE 5:1, No HDR last two RED HELIUM shots (C012-C013) are 6144x2592 @ 25 fps REDCODE 5:1, No HDR RED WEAPON shots in A001_0128QY are: 6144x3160 @ 23.976 fps REDCODE 4:1, No HDR RED WEAPON shots in all B002_C0XXXXX folders are: 5k (5120x2700) 23.976 If there are any resources needed I'm happy to provide anything to help get FFMPEG capable of transcoding modern (R4 - NOT R3) R3Ds from RED cameras. The work can be done at CLI with REDline but it's beta software that doesn't run on os x or windows. Limitation in our current archive solution. I'd love to live my entire life in linux but that's not how the world works. Thank you! On 2/24/17, Rob Wentz <rwentz@pedersen.com> wrote:
I'm curious where things are at in terms of .R3D v4 support for ffmpeg.
We need more samples.
I'm happy to provide! Specifically what are you looking for? we have 2 weapons and 2 epics.
Whatever you wanted supported in ffmpeg, we need each sample that adds new features. If you have specification even better. _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-user-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
You'll be lucky; don't they encrypt it? I wouldn't be surprised if the encryption was fairly basic, but you'd probably have to pay someone a lot of money to attack it. P
On 3/31/17, Rob Wentz <rwentz@pedersen.com> wrote:
I'm curious simply because I never heard any further - did you ever receive the samples I provided? Paul? The initial response was that you needed more samples. . .
Yes I got samples, and thank you very much for them. I just explored little and installed software that can open such files. But thats all what I did, as it appears it use some sort of custom codec which needs much more work. And doing it all for free currently is out of question for me.
https://postings.pedersen.com/
username: ffmpeg-user password: r3d
There is footage from both cameras we use- 8K Helium and some 5k and 6k footage from Red Weapon.
first four RED HELIUM shots (C001-C004) are 6144x3160 @ 25 fps REDCODE 5:1, No HDR
last two RED HELIUM shots (C012-C013) are
6144x2592 @ 25 fps REDCODE 5:1, No HDR
RED WEAPON shots in A001_0128QY are: 6144x3160 @ 23.976 fps REDCODE 4:1, No HDR
RED WEAPON shots in all B002_C0XXXXX folders are: 5k (5120x2700) 23.976
If there are any resources needed I'm happy to provide anything to help get FFMPEG capable of transcoding modern (R4 - NOT R3) R3Ds from RED cameras.
The work can be done at CLI with REDline but it's beta software that doesn't run on os x or windows. Limitation in our current archive solution. I'd love to live my entire life in linux but that's not how the world works.
Thank you!
On 2/24/17, Rob Wentz <rwentz@pedersen.com> wrote:
I'm curious where things are at in terms of .R3D v4 support for ffmpeg.
We need more samples.
I'm happy to provide! Specifically what are you looking for? we have 2 weapons and 2 epics.
Whatever you wanted supported in ffmpeg, we need each sample that adds new features. If you have specification even better. _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-user
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Hi Rob, don't you think it'd be much more effective to get a H.264 recorder to capture proxies while shooting? Or something that creates DNx or ProRes with a baked LUT that can be easily transcoded to proxies? Erik
Hi Rob, don't you think it'd be much more effective to get a H.264 recorder to capture proxies while shooting? Or something that creates DNx or ProRes with a baked LUT that can be easily transcoded to proxies? Erik no i dont. This is for indexing the archives not proxies for post production. thanks for your consult.
On Feb 24, 2017, 9:55 AM -1000, Rob Wentz <rwentz@pedersen.com>, wrote:
Hi, I work in video post production, our DPs all shoot on Red cameras. . . it's become the norm that if stuff is coming in shot on anything larger than 2K it's shot on a Red camera and the footage is in .R3D.
I was hoping to be able to get somewhere with using ffmpeg to create proxies of .R3Ds before archiving them to LTO using Archiware P5 Archive.
Just out of curiosity, is there a reason why REDline won’t work for your needs? It’s pretty comprehensive, as far as working with R3Ds from the command-line is concerned. I use it all the time for generating proxies, just as you mentioned, and I don't really miss it in ffmpeg.
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