[Ffmpeg-devel] gmx unconditionally rejects valid mails due to SORBS (=i need new mail provider!)

Ivan Kalvachev ikalvachev
Fri May 26 08:58:29 CEST 2006

2006/5/25, Mean <fixounet at free.fr>:
> Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> >as you probably noticed from the recent disscussion, mails from many
> >developers dont reach me anymore thanks to gmx & sorbs, sorbs only removes
> >people from their list if they pay, i have great doubt about the legality
> >of this system, it somehow reminds me of mafia methods, but then IMO
> >listing people (or IPs which are practically equivalent) probably is
> >already breaking european privacy laws, then again iam not a lawyer and
> >iam just guessing, i mean if i made a list of addresses of young good
> >looking girls id be in serious troubble in no time so why should
> >doing this with spammers and people who never send a spam but somehow
> >still end up on the list and people with dynamic ips be legal?
> >
> >the second part of the problem of course is that gmx has no option
> >to turn this insanity off (ive already disabled all their antispam stuff)
> >
> >so iam asking if someone could provide me a working pop3/smtp email or
> >for suggestions of a useable mail provider ...
> >
> >my requirements are simple, nothing special
> >* working POP3 & SMTP (IMAP might be nice too but ive survived without it
> >  so this isnt really a factor ATM)
> >* secure (POP3 & SMTP over SSL)
> >* free (i wont pay for it and i wont accept advertisements appended to mails)
> >* not in SORBS list of coarse :)
> >* not doing any unconditional mail rejection based on random lists
> >* logging of connection IPs&time (i once asked gmx if anyone tried to
> >  access/hack my account and they told me they dont log anything but the
> >  single last IP)
> >* traffic will be mostly mailinglists with some rare once a month ~10-50mb
> >  file (and the spam/viriis everyone receives these days ...)
> >* limiting POP3/SMTP access to a a single IP is fine too (my IP is dynamic
> >  theoretical IIRC but it never changes ...)
> >* and the server should be dependable (not going to dissapear in a year
> >  or at least provide .forward after "dissapearing")
> >
> >
> >
> I assume you rejected gmail (at least gmail+pop/ssl/tls)
> Because of the lack of logging ?
> Because if gmail is an option, half the people on this list will be glad
> to send you an invitation,
> in the very unlikely case you don't have one already.

Yesterday I got test mail from dalias at my gmail account, despite
they are listed at sorbs as client and dalias haven't been yet
unlisted. (full headers indicate he have valid spf record).

Well, I've been using gmail for quite some time without _noticing_ any
bad side effects.

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