[FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] New library for shared non-generic libav* utils

[Michael Niedermayer]

On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 07:57:16PM +0100, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote:
> Baptiste Coudurier <baptiste.coudurier at gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > On 07/09/2010 11:26 AM, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote:
> >> Baptiste Coudurier<baptiste.coudurier at gmail.com>  writes:
> >>
> >>> On 07/09/2010 11:02 AM, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote:
> >>>> Baptiste Coudurier<baptiste.coudurier at gmail.com>   writes:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 07/09/2010 09:48 AM, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote:
> >>>>>> Michael Niedermayer<michaelni at gmx.at>    writes:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 04:41:59PM +0100, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Michael Niedermayer<michaelni at gmx.at>    writes:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I spended alot of time on libavutil and its only goal was to become
> >>>>>>>>> a general utils lib
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Said who?  It wasn't even your idea to begin with.  It was suggested
> >>>>>>>> and implemented by Alexander Strasser.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> svn blame of *.c *.h says:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >>>>>>> so id say, yes iam still the primary maintainer and author, even if
> >>>>>>> we consider that blame is not the worlds most idiot proof way to
> >>>>>>> check this
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, you wrote more lines than anyone else, but not by any large
> >>>>>> margin.  Of the total ~11k lines, you only contributed roughly 25%.
> >>>>>> If lines were votes, you'd be losing.  You seem to like votes...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nah, this is heavily biased. A lot of lines are defines and macros in
> >>>>> *.h, not talking about the recent controversial documentation commits.
> >>>>
> >>>> Much of libavutil functionality resides in header files, so counting
> >>>> them is anything but biased.Are you jealous because your name didn't
> >>>> show up at all?
> >>>
> >>> Are you on crack ? You'd better stop your childish game and get your
> >>> shit together Mans. You are going too far.
> >>
> >> You are the one who needs to calm down.
> >
> > I'm pretty calm at the moment. On the contrary, during the past few
> > days I feel that you have been very offensive, and any thread seems an
> > opportunity to continue and provoke people, myself included. I think
> > your last sentence illustrates this well.
> >
> >> Did I do something to offend you?
> >
> > Not only me, but other people as well.
> 
> Where exactly did I offend YOU?  I could understand, though not agree,
> with Michael being offended by something I said in the last few days,
> although offence has certainly not been my intent.
> 
> >> A while ago when you and Michael had a big fight, I mostly sided
> >> with you.  Is this the thanks I get?
> >
> > That was a while ago, and as you can see, things have changed,
> > hopefully I'd say. Michael is the one trying to be reasonable
> > currently, and I second this.
> 
> Please do tell me what made you turn all your hate on me.  In the last
> year or so, you have not missed one chance to jump into a discussion
> for no other apparent reason than to contradict me just for the sake
> of it.  Why this hostility?

as you are asking this. i must admit that i have a similar feeling and
question in relation to you

the intreadwrite stuff (why does it bother you so much if we export
 it through a clean and documented api, projects use it anyway and
 as is its certainly filled with more issues than if we tried to make
 it at least work in the common cases and documented it we can even
 officially say its not recommanded to be used ...

the gnu linker issues (you jumped at gnus defence but reading irc logs
 a while ago gave me the feeling you did not understand the issues there
 fully, so why did you attack me?

my svn repo on mphq, i remember you where against me being able to
 put my own little foss projects on mphq.

the vote (you know if you dont want to vote you can just not vote)

libavutil now (we can add a new lib or just make libavfilter depend
on libavcodec)

the 3rd->1st person commit

the removial of the gnu linker bug explanation/rant


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Opposition brings concord. Out of discord comes the fairest harmony.
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