[FFmpeg-devel] RAW Bayer video codec - needed

Michael Niedermayer michaelni at gmx.at
Tue Dec 25 17:42:08 CET 2012


Hi

On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 08:31:38AM +0700, Paul Spurrier wrote:
> Hi.
> I am a filmmaker from England, who currently works in Thailand.
> You can look up some of my previous work at:
> http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1F7C3D295B468DEB&feature=view_all
> 
> I've been working on the prototype for a new form of digital cinema camera
> - HD resolution - accepts professional lenses - and most importantly
> records the RAW sensor data.
> 
> Anyone who uses a DSLR stills camera and then retouches in Photoshop will
> have discovered the advantages of using RAW files. It gives you more
> flexibility and latitude in the editing stage.
> 
> The important thing about the camera is that while it gives a great quality
> result and is certainly good enough for professional use, it is made almost
> entirely of publicly available products. Apart from the case, there is only
> one tiny circuit board that I have had to build. It is essentially a
> mini-PC in a camera shaped case with a high-quality machine-vision camera
> on the front.
> 
> It's not only a camera that I'm looking forward to use as my own creative
> tool, but hopefully also a prototype for other filmmakers to design and
> build their own cameras.
> 
> However, there is one obstacle.
> 
> I need to find a recording codec for it.
> 
> There are a number of professional codecs that work with professional
> cameras such as REDcode, Phantom Cine, Cineform, ARRIRaw. But of course all
> of these are proprietary codecs.
> 
> The only option at the moment is CinemaDNG, but this is a slightly strange
> codec that seems to be basically an extension to the stills DNG format, and
> records an image sequence. I'm not even sure how it handles audio.
> 
> Clearly what is needed is a codec that can take in 8 to 16 bit RAW in the
> different Bayer array formats, and store, either uncompressed or losslessly
> compressed. (And of course allow playback)
> 
> This seems an ideal task for ffmpeg.
> 
> I believe that work has been done in ffmpeg on a RED-style codec, and I
> think there have been efforts to produce a Cineform-style codec. Phantom
> Cine is interesting because it has a white paper that gives great detail
> about its format.
> 
> I have no desire to 'own' a codec, otherwise that makes it no more useful
> than the current proprietary formats.
> But I do need a codec.
> 

> Has anyone either:
> got work in progress on a  RAW Bayer ffmpeg implementation that they might
> share with me,
> or
> got the time to adapt, complete, or start from scratch such a project.

Peter Ross is working on RAW Bayer support


> 
> I could sponsor such a project.

maybe best to talk with peter ...

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