[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH]lavf/rawenc: Add a G.729 muxer

Nicolas George george at nsup.org
Wed May 18 16:35:56 CEST 2016

Le decadi 30 floréal, an CCXXIV, Derek Buitenhuis a écrit :
> Frankly, this is nothing nothing but an ad hominem attack.
> I am tired of it. This happens constantly, and the community
> is always silent[1], and far too accepting of such toxic behavior.
> It has given me far too much unneeded stress and sourness. The
> complete inability of the community to address such behavior and
> individuals is appalling.
> I've had enough. I've already distanced myself from the Libav
> community recently for similar behavior, and I will be doing
> so for the FFmpeg community as well now.
> Both are toxic communities. As of this email, I am unsubscribing
> from both ffmpeg-devel and libav-devel.
> I hope both communities enjoy their little out of touch bubbles.
> [1] http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2016-May/193990.html

I will make no difficulty saying that I am too somewhat annoyed by Carl
Eugen's attitude, and, if it had came to that, you would probably have my
support overruling his objections, depending on the specifics of course.

But your decision to put all the community in the same bag and throw it away
is no more mature.

People on virtual communities do not step in to help, this is the sad state
of human nature. It can be explained, if not excused: nobody is "really"
harmed (I hope we did not arrive to the points of harassment and death
threats that have happened in some gaming communities), so nobody feels
concerned enough to step in.

Plus, nobody here have enough time.

For example, my reaction to this thread was "I do not know anything about
G.729, I have still 300+ messages to sift after a family week-end, delete
without reading"; I only fell on this sub-thread by happenstance.

As for your mail from last week, my reaction was "he's right, people who
criticize merges are annoying, but I do not have anything interesting to say
on the point and nobody likes a useless '+1'".

Now you are threatening to leave I feel motivated enough to write something,
even though I have a few professional deadlines soon, but I do not really
know what to say.

What would you want? What kind of answer would you have expected to your
mail from last week?

If you feel that some people contribute only useless comments, then announce
that you will utterly disregard them and then do so. You have commit rights.

Do you want moral support? Assume you have it! They are the unreasonable
ones, not you, therefore you can assume that silence means that the people
whose support you value agree with you.

I have, in my early days in some communities, acquired anti-cronies who
would tell me "shut up cockroach" at all time. It used to make me suffer,
until I realized: I do not care what they think of me, and the other people
on the community, the people who made the community valuable, did not

Well, I do not know where to go from there.

Except this: Carl Eugen, from now on, consider that I oppose to any patch
that you would sent that is not correctly produced by git format-patch /


  Nicolas George
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