[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] ffmpeg: Don't offer H.264 compatibility warning for NV12 input

Michael Niedermayer michael at niedermayer.cc
Thu Jun 15 17:22:34 EEST 2017

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 02:12:09PM +0200, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> On 6/15/17, Michael Niedermayer <michael at niedermayer.cc> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 01:14:34PM +0200, wm4 wrote:
> > [...]
> >> By default, ffmpeg CLI's design is something like "fuck the user". I'm
> >
> > This is not true, nor are statments like this useful.
> > Whatever problem there is, it is not and never was FFmpegs design to
> > fuck the user. Quite the opposite ...
> >
> > If problems exist they should be fixed. If they cannot be fixed they
> > should be at least documented on our issue tracker.
> >
> > Without this, such rants are off topic as they cannot serve to
> > improve FFmpeg. Noone can improve ffmpegs CLI from a incorrect
> > statement of the problem.
> > There may be issues in the CLI, but the issue is not that its
> > designed to "fuck the user"
> >
> > Also id love to see other members of the mailing list, there are over
> > a thousand IIRC. Help a bit with keeping the content and tone of the
> > ffmpeg mailing lists within the purpose of the lists.
> > Which is ultimatly to improve FFmpeg and help its users and developers.
> We do not have supreme leader any more.

no, but that doesnt mean we can make false statments about other
people or their work.

Theres the moral wrong

Theres the technical wrong, of not correctly stating the problem and
that potentially affecting work on the problem

Theres the social wrong. That is people who spend significant time on
the CLI becoming offended and alienated by such statments.

Theres the legal wrong, there are many people who worked on the CLI
at some point. Anyone of them can probably sue us for defamation,
but IANAL. I dont think that would help FFmpegs / our public image.

A big part of the current CLI has btw been implemented by Libav
developers, and merged into FFmpeg, other parts are very old code
from times when FFmpeg was much simpler.

Michael     GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB

While the State exists there can be no freedom; when there is freedom there
will be no State. -- Vladimir Lenin
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