[FFmpeg-devel] [RFC][ALT PATCHES] Code of Conduct Enforcement

Ronald S. Bultje rsbultje at gmail.com
Mon May 14 20:59:38 EEST 2018


On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Paul B Mahol <onemda at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/14/18, Derek Buitenhuis <derek.buitenhuis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello all.
> >
> > This is a little rambling / stream of thought, but take it as you will,
> > and perhaps some discussion or change comes of it. Or, more likely,
> personal
> > attacks, flames, and no change. Or 1 few will reply and then the thread
> will
> > die and people will go on like it never happened. Sorry to be
> pessimistic,
> > but history speaks for itself.
> >
> > Currently this list, and IRC, is a terrible place for developers and
> users.
> > Harassment is tolerated, and the CoC has never been enforced. There are
> > absolutely no repercussions as it currently stands. When develpers see
> > others
> > being abused, do nothing and then continue to act and interact with the
> > abuses as if nothing happened, in the future.
> >
> > This current set up of everybody flaming each other endlessly, and
> endless
> > harassment merely lets abuse proliferate, because nobody sticks up for
> each
> > other and no abusers have ever been removed, ever, in the history of
> FFmpeg.
> > Not one thing has changed, ever, since the introduction of the CoC. It is
> > an absolute failure by all metrics.
> >
> > I know I am not alone having been driven away by such behavior. Even when
> > I started to contribute (a little, not much) again, upon joining IRC, for
> > example, I was immediately attacked. This is not just happening to one
> > person though.
> Lies, Lies and Lies.

I don't think it's a good thing to call a dev a liar based on limited
available information. If you have doubts, you can express it as such, but
don't assert doubts as truths.


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