[FFmpeg-devel] [RFC][ALT PATCHES] Code of Conduct Enforcement

James Almer jamrial at gmail.com
Wed May 16 17:25:01 EEST 2018

On 5/16/2018 11:07 AM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Derek Buitenhuis
> <derek.buitenhuis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is a little rambling / stream of thought, but take it as you will,
>> and perhaps some discussion or change comes of it. Or, more likely, personal
>> attacks, flames, and no change. Or 1 few will reply and then the thread will
>> die and people will go on like it never happened. Sorry to be pessimistic,
>> but history speaks for itself.
> 48 hours later and:
>     - Some votes for repealing the CoC.
>     - One vote for keeping

I think the issue is not the lack of clear enforcement rules, but a lack
of a proactive enforcer, be it a person or a body. The CoC has done
nothing but give people something to say when they want to be passive
aggressive in a discussion.
Changing it to a more strict one like Videolan's will not affect that.

This lack of interest you mentioned is exactly the issue. If it all
depends on the coordinated action and involvement of a dozen or so
developers, then nothing will happen. As i said, the one time action was
called for a developer's behavior, no voter showed up.

I'm up for keeping it or making it stricter. But it needs to be
enforced. So how do we get a dozen or so people to stop looking away
every time someone is a dick in a thread?

>     - Some replies that do neither, but prefer to attack the example
>       rather than the actual point of the email.
>     - As suspected, a large chunk of the project's developers have
>       simply not replied, hoping it just goes away or blows over, or
>       don't care.
> I'd say the prediction was pretty accurated. I don't forsee any change, as per
> usual. Just some flames, and nothing happens, as is tradition. Can't change
> a community who are not interested and/or actively hostile to trying to be
> less toxic. (inb4 'I just want to write code and not do politics/etc." replies,
> which really mean 'I am OK with the way it is and can't be arsed to make
> it less toxic for others.')
> Cheers,
> - Derek
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