[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] [RFC] [GA Vote required] Code of Conduct change re step down requests

[Michael Niedermayer]

Hi Vittorio

On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 01:04:39PM -0500, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 7:21 AM Michael Niedermayer <michael at niedermayer.cc>
> wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > Hey Micheal,
> > >
> > > Instead of flooding the CoC with a series of ad-personam rules that will
> > > grant immunity to you and stifle any voice of dissent, can you answer
> > > whether you're a professional admin or not? Ignoring the question will
> > only
> > > make your optics worse.
> > >
> > > Last I heard, you stepped down already
> > > https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2015-July/176489.html, why are
> > > you still behaving as project lead?
> > >
> > > Deciding what information on the infra is public or not, keeping the
> > > MAINTAINERS file around, adding duties to the role, deciding the funding
> > > amounts of the projects you're working on 1h before submission, and so
> > on,
> > > all seem to make you the de-facto leader, ***in my opinion***.
> > >
> >
> > > Did something or someone made you change your mind?
> >
> > When i looked at how many mails you send in the last 3 weeks (29),
> >
> > How many mails you send in the 3 months prior (less than 1 mail per month)
> >
> > how many contributions you did to the code in the last year (3)
> > and how many contributions i did to teh code base in the last year (531)
> >

> > And you ask me to resign, and have various other demands, like what should
> > and should not be in the Code of Conduct. And in another thread
> > say the way to make these mails from you stop is to do what you ask for.

> So basically you are dodging the question and invalidating my argument with
> a "your opinion is invalid" response.

no, read again what i have written above, i put back the part you moved away


[...]

> * trying to return the old maintainers style of maintenance by

Id like to switch to a style used by successfull large projects like linux.
The similarity of linux and the old maintainer style might deceive you


> negating the
> role and importance of the TC

no, the TC is fine


> * ignoring actual problems, like having a policy for booths, that are
> damaging the reputation of the community

If you want to improve the booths related to thilo, there is a naive and
effective way. Send thilo a friendly mail (with me in CC) offering your
unconditional help on future boothes thilo manages.
CC-ing thilo on wierd rule sets is not going to make the boothes better

An additional man at the booth will also ensure its not unmanned when thilo
has to go get some food or has to go to the toilet.

You know these issues are so simple to fix, if one just wants to fix them,
instead of well, debating about them

thx

[...]
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