[FFmpeg-devel] Discussion about mails from 9 years ago Was: [PATCH 1/2] doc/community: Add a standard set of rules for software development mailing lists

compn ff at hawaiiantel.net
Sun Nov 24 22:51:08 EET 2024


On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 20:09:43 +0100
Michael Niedermayer <michael at niedermayer.cc> wrote:

> less than 2 weeks ago the founder was insulted like this:
> "Fabrice's control of ffmpeg.org and French trademark, despite not havign contributed
>  in 20 years, purely for ego reasons mean we can never move to a truly community run set or project infra."
> 
> And we can probably go on and on.
> On top of this i would not be surprised if other people have similar stories
> from yet others they spoke with.

a non-ff developer at vdd said i was "inactive for years". it
makes me not want to visit vdd again. i reported them to the videolan
board, but the videolan board never even bothered to reply to my
mail. i dont think the videolan code of conduct has any enforcement,
despite them saying how awesome the videolan code of conduct is. i also
question how "strong" their board/project is if it cant even ack a
code of conduct complaint in 20+ days. thats not strong, its non
functional.

i have maintained a few things these last 5 years, although i havent
been active on the ml. i've done hundreds of hours of work in the past 5
years on ffmpeg. including moderating the mailing lists, which i've
done since ~2006. now that i have more time recently i'm back to doing
patch reviews on ml, answering questions to new developers in
#ffmpeg-devel. 

there is a huge hole now that carl has left the bug trac. his work was
super under appreciated. developers for years would attack and
threaten him for insignificant things, example because he marked a bug
invalid/wontfix.

i come back to the mailing list and see so much infighting. for no
reason. 9 year old mail quotes? nonsense! are you trying to chase more
developers from the project? calling developers inactive? calling
developers paranoid? calling developers to step down?

> Not realizing that the domain is held by the founder who belongs to the
> community, not realizing most of the root admins are active members of
> the community.

arpi, alex and reimar are certainly ffmpeg committers and part of the
community. it was a shock when someone asked who they were.

-compn


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